I was out in a club in London a couple of weeks ago & I walked past a hb7. I was wearing rosary beads and she grabbed them as I got near her so I started talking to her. She asked if I was religious so I told her I wasn't. She said that her friend was really religious and hated people who wear crosses & arent religious. I carried on talking to her & k-closed. As I was kissing her, her friend came over and pushed me away & asked if I was catholic so I told her I wasnt. She gave me the most evil look I have ever seen, so I left & went back to my friends. When I walked past the friend later and she elbowed me in the ribs, which I thought was a bit excessive.

So I thought I could use this as an opinion opener by asking if they think it is acceptable to wear a cross for fashion and follow it up with that story

What do you think?

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Plus side on using it, it's a true story, so you're not just spouting something you read somewhere else, which some guys feel is 'immoral'.

Down side: It can be a fairly controversial topic, and may blow up in your face. Not that it will, but it may.

I'd also leave out the bit about snogging the girl, because while it does demonstrate social proof, kinda, it also comes off as bragging a bit, unless you can manage to hint at it subtextually, and even then.

That being said, anything can work as an opener if you're slick enough. I have succesfully used, "Hey, you stole my ash tray ,didn't you?"

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I don't know enough about your game to say whether you can or can't pull off telling girls about a make-out you had. Some PUAs can, some can't, depends on their game. Decide for yourself, try both out, then decide whether or not to keep the part of kissing a girl in there.

Other then that, it has some entertainment with the girl actually elbowing you, and if it is controversial that'll also cause some tension which is good. I can't really say much on the topic, as I'm from The Netherlands and most of us aren't really big on religion. (Even the Christians we do have aren't.) So here their wouldn't really be a 'spark' that every good opener should have.

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Being Catholic myself, you are not suppose to wear rosary beads around your neck, it's disrespectful. A necklace with a cross is one thing but rosary beads are not suppose to be worn.

Use it if you can tell the story in a funny, lighthearted way. Don't allow the conversation to go towards a religion debate or you'll bring the mood down. But, I think most people in London aren't religious so they'd probably agree with you that the friend was being a bitch AND preselection DHV and all that bullcrap.

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i would not use that often. its wrong to open with a mind thinker... it takes you off focus. which is not something you want to do

I'm not saying that your opener wouldn't work, in fact I'm sure you'll be successful depending on certain situational events. However, what I have learned over the years from being a waiter, and studying psychology is that you don't ever want to bring up the "hot button" topics in conversation with people you don't really know anything about. Stay away from conversations like religion, politics, money (not as bad.... but leave money out of your conversations), work (just labor working in general) and focus more on conversations that spark 'interest' rather than debate. Hot button topics while they open conversation, are taken very seriously to people, and sometimes an opposing side on something like religion will be an instant 'deal breaker' to the woman you're trying to pick up. Good Luck!

I'm catholic and I would never wear rosary beads. There's alot of catholic girls in my area as well so that would just hinder your chances.

So it all depends on your demographics.

i agree...it's too narrow of an opener.