She'll remain nameless for identity sake, but, I'm trying to come up with a real witty opening msg.

Here's what I have so far:

I'd like to introduce myself to you.. My name is Jay, people call me "Spirit". I'm from Los Angeles, do a lot of partying (not the bad kind) in Hollywood, and love, i mean LOVE to surf. I also own a few businesses and model.. it's fun

I've seen a few of your videos before and, well, I'd like to look past all that as theatrics. I've been in the game for 5 years and know that it's work, you get paid, and that's the game. F

What I'm sure you don't usually hear through all the complimentary comments from creepy and unique types is what..

**Still writing it.. would u guys start over? i am figuring out the best angle to approach this.

I have an ex- girlfriend who used to do porn and we had a conversation on dealing with professionals in regards to PU.

She said

A) Everyone always talks about my job when they talk to me. It's annoying and boring.
B) Everyone always talks about how other guys are creepy and how they are better. It's really obvious that they are the same and couldn't figure out a way to show it, so they said it.
C) No one ever just treats me like a regular person.
D) I love my job. I have sex for a living so I don't know why guys always think it's going to be extra hard to pick me up. I am pretty much one of the few girls that you already know is down for having fun.

There was a bunch more but these are the main things I picked up from the convo.
Hope it helps.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

I'm not expert but you're qualifying yourself to her.

You need to get her to qualify herself to you but don't go overboard because she'll think your judging her.

Don't mention too much about yourself because you want to be mysterious.

Don't even bring up that she is in porn because its easier for her to put you into the *just another fat creepy old, nasty dude that is freshly divorced
from a horrible banshee with 5 kids coz you have a fetish for them...Yikes!

Jits advice is very good as far as the don't's go

yup, if I had the do's then I would be too busy nailing porn stars to write on the forum LOL!

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

thanks so far, guys. i'm still hoping i can get one of you to help with a re-wording/re-working of the initial msg. then from there, i should be good as golden.

-j

I'll go through it and give my ideas. I am no MPUA so please scrutinize heavily and get second opinions.

I would take out the (not the bad kind) just doesn't serve a specific purpose. It places judgement and you have no idea what her morals are. I think if she objects then you can explain.

Hollywood,surf,business,model. to many DHV in a row. try to spread them evenly so you don't look try-hard. See if you can tie them into the message rather than list your positives all at one go.

I think talking about her work is kind lame. That's probably all she ever hears about. The next line you kind of insult her other suitors. This is a DLV for sure. Rather than bust on them directly try to separate yourself from them in her mind. A good way to do this would be to avoid talking about her work.

I think you are dealing with the Hired Gun of all Hired Guns. So if I am going to trust anything I have learned in my studies I would think showing disinterest and negging would be critical. Now how do you show disinterest and neg when you are approaching online??? I have no idea.

Once again I am outlining what I WOULD NOT do because I don't think my game is strong enough on the what TO DO side.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

Mostly what the other guys said.

Don't talk about her job come on. Also witty remark about her job, you think nobody has tried doing this before.

How about do what other guys haven't, talk to her as a person. Its the internet she probably has a bunch of info to talk about.

My new reworded msg.. see what you think.. add// edit to help make my chances better.

thanks community

Subject: "Left for the forum to decide on a clever witty one"

Body: "Hey.. I noticed you're wearing the feathers of a peacock in that photo.. that' says a lot about you right there..says you're into making a powerful statement. that's cool because a lot of girls i see around in LA aren't that unique with the colors that they wear.. show's you're kinda different from the bunch.. that's why the peacock stands out from all the other kinds of birds..

You've also got this energy I'm sensing straight from your eyes.. i want to say alluring .. but it's something only an Aries would have.. I'm sorta on the fence though, Saggitarius. you've got the expression / free-spiritedness of one.. but i could also be way off.

The name's Jay.. I'm kinda just taking in this whole social networking experience.. my ex got me started on it and said it'd be good for business..now it's all, "add, accept, add, accept" to people i hardly even remember from college! you kinda remind me of Jenna.. she was a ball of fun, unpredictability, and sexy all rolled into one.. loved the tweeting.. too bad when we were shooting a film together, she wanted to live in Italy and I decided to come back to the states.. worst decision ever!! :-0

We should chat a bit more.. the linguine is almost ready.. shoot me a msg or a txt.. (xxx) xxx-xxxx

-J

Subjects I have used with some success that don't relate specifically to the person individual profile:

Subject: 'I'm Mr. Left, heard u were looking 4 me?'

then in the message ' .... Damn I meant Right.' Look for something in her profile that isn't obvious and give a LITTLE comment on that. (not too much just a hint that you pay attention)

What's her subject line? The example I gave above came from a load of 'looking for Mr. Right' I noticed women using.

What are her photos like anything interesting going on that's not related to her appearance? E.G. Is there a photo of her holding a drink? If there is something like...

Subject 2: We deffo have an alcoholic on our hands!

Message 2: Oh dear yet another alcoholic on this website looking for a drinking buddy. You'll be on the Jerry Springer show next. In your tracksuit talking with you're hand over you're face disrespecting Steve! (At this point you have demonstrated you have paid attention and killed two birds with one stone.)



Still to much ass kissing in you're message you are placing her on a pedestal. Scrap it. You want to be more like,

'Most women on this site are so boring, They come across as interesting at first but then they can end up either weird or boring so I usually don't send a message. You seem different though, but obviously I'm not sure .. yet.. '

Maybe put it near the end after you've sparked some interest. But notice how there is NO ass kissing in there at all yet its not over the top insulting. Usually you'll get her trying to qualify herself to you which is an IOI so she'll try and explain why she is different.

End by giving her a nickname try making it unique and it will relate to something in her profile or you're subject line. So you could try 'Talk soon Alchi' If you want to be lazy but its not that good.

I'll give you an example of one I used yesterday. I didn't escalate quick enough with her as I tend to waffle on because I get really picky and still have a load of inner game to deal with.

She was giving me IOI's as she said 'I love bass players' to what I said in my profile. So I reciprocated by mentioning something in her profile but did not kiss ass. In her profile she says she does blah blah in the day but is a personal assistant by night. So I twisted it and said this

Yeah yeah. You're clearly the stalker! 'Personal Assistant but at night'... Please... like I'm going to believe that! Blatantly you're out on the prowl at 1a.m. for younger men who play bass on their way home from the pub! (She was older than me)

I can see it now. 'Oh you play bass??? I'm a personal assistant at night! allow me to assist you home... here I know a short cut to you're house down this dark abandoned alley!'

So thinking back (Even I'm learning as I am typing here how cool is that) I should have said a nickname such as 'talk to you later stalker '(refreshes her memory AND makes her laugh twice only whilst putting in the effort once)

Rest of the message...

*Well this is awkward, my phone just told me he wants to talk to you're phone :/*

Don't use this in a first email but steal it. I seen it on the forum a few weeks ago and It gets a laugh and a 'you're funny' type of comment along with the digits.

If she says no I don't give my number out to strangers (I've had this once) Just say yeah I know that's what I said to my phone! and carry on as if nothing happened.

You need to add some humour in there too but I can't really think right now so something along the lines of 'I know you are too busy messaging the fat creepy old, nasty dudes that are freshly divorced from a horrible banshee with 5 kids coz you have a fetish for them...YIKES! and I know you are DYING to get back to them... '

So you're (and everyone else's if they feel like it) task will be to use this stuff make up you're on spin and let us know what you come up with before you send.

Lets get some masterpieces going here people!

OK guys he's sent me a link to her profile but I can't see the rest of her profile or her photo's as I am not in her friends and her profile is set to private. sorry mate. I can't P.M. you back either for some reason. Theres' not really anything to go on AT ALL.

Her about me which is the only thing I could see was

'OK Folks this is the only REAL (her name) Face book page... ALL of the other (her name) are fake...

I got a rough Idea already of something funny but I think we should get a few more perspectives on this too.

As we all know most porn stars breasts are fake
You could make fun of this by mentioning that her breasts are fake? (if they are?) And make fun that her profile is therefore fake? Something along these lines?
Maybe its over the top though so you have to stick in a :p. I'm sure other people will make something immense from this idea.

This goes against what I said about not mentioning her job but if its funny as fuck it will work

hmm wonder why pm dont work back.. anyway yea thats all i see as well in her profile.. what were some msgs you were thinking ? id be ears to hear what others have to say as well..

Wow! really amazingly intelligent way of applying the stuff people suggested. I'm impressed. Last little thing. You don't want to talk about Exes to chicks unless they bring it up. You also only want to talk for about 2 seconds if they do. The parts of your message relating to exes leaves way too much room for the discussion to go sour. Cut out the ex stuff and talk about your mom. Girls kind of like when you talk about mom.

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

So yea, I totally agree with the pedestal and negging thing except that interest is shown just by approaching online (this is a predicament that was brought to my attention by a blondguy post). I think complimenting her and being direct is okay but you need to show that you are interested but not invested. does that make sense? It's okay to be interested but you need to leave her something to work for... investment. Thoughts on this?

PS: My favorite corny number line is "I lost my number. Can I have yours?" If she says no "my aren't you greedy. You haven't even asked why I need it."

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You can't forget about me, stupid. Everywhere I go ima have my own theme music.

Thx Jits.. I finally went with it and sent it out.. We'll see what happens.. Hre's the final copy:

Hey.. I noticed you're wearing the feathers of a peacock in that photo.. that' says a lot about you right there..says you're into making a powerful statement. that's cool because a lot of girls i see around in LA aren't that unique with the colors that they wear.. show's you're kinda different from the bunch.. that's why the peacock stands out from all the other kinds of birds ya know..

You've also got this energy I'm sensing straight from your eyes.. i want to say alluring .. but it's something only an Aries would have.. I'm sorta on the fence though, Saggitarius. you've got that expression / free-spiritedness of one.. but i don't know

The name's Jay.. I'm kinda just taking in this whole social networking experience.. a couple friends got me on it saying it'd be good for auditions.. i don't know about that. it's more like a hub for people i hardly ran into back in college to add friend request me..

I'd like to chat a little bit more, but i have to finish reading this script.. it seems like there is some good energy emitting from you .. so let's talk soon...

What kinda things are you into, "xxx"?

-J

Serious?.I don't want to mock anyone on the forum so I wont. You should have taken the advice people gave you since you asked for help.