Ok, so if HB has a boyfriend who is an AMOG, does normal bf destroyers work, or is there something else?

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Good question. I would love to hear the answer to this..

What's the context in which you want this girl? I.E. she interested, is she uninterested, does she even know you, is she a friend, or is she the typical stranger at the pub whose bf is pissing?

She is a friend of a friend. And it is not really about her, it is just when we met she was with her boyfriend, it just came to my mind to ask this.

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First of all, there can only be on AMOG! ALPHA MALE OF GROUP! Just one!

This has to be you! If the boyfriend AMOG's you. You're out.

To be a great PUA, YOU have to be the AMOG!

I know I'm being straight. But these are the facts! Don't let other guys AMOG you.
You are the shit! No one is better than you!

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Of course they do. Every relationship has flaws. And with the typical boyfriend destroyer, she'll tell you all of them. Go for it.

there used to be a sticky on bf destroyers but i remember that you cant neg on him too much because she will come to his defense u have to use remarks like if i was your bf i would never behave like that. a girl like you deserves better. also a new tactic i heard of is putting yourself down mid bf destroyer to make he defend you it could go south and blow up in your face but if it works you have her hook line and sinker. and remember bf destroyers wrok best on new relationships, long distance ones , and troublesome ones. if a girl had been with her bf for over six months its not even worth a try usually because she has loyalty unless she is a complete skank but your pua skills should help you find out what she is.

good luck tell me how it works out

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I know how to use bf destroyers, I was just wandering if there is anything different if he is amog, but I guess it doesn't matter. I'll just use regular ones, and see how it works.

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A boxer trying to scratch his balls.

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A guy lying on a girl and waiting for an earthquake to do the rest.

I'm really curious about this as well. Because I've recently got this hb who I reckon is into me but she's been going out with her boyfriend (who I'm very loosely freinds with) for a year. So its probably gonna take heaps of work to become a bf destroyer on this hb cus she seems loyal. I recently was at a party and decided to try k-close her cus her bf wasn't there and I talked to her and she kept saying she had a bf. This was before I started coming on these forums, but I managed to just kiss (not makeout) her during the night. What do you guys reckon? I do have a slight ethical problem with fucking up an ltr just for a fuck haha. But I'm willing to be a dog anyway.

arshavin23, I would walk away from that situation. If she has shown interest in leaving her bf already, than it might be a different story. I have broken up relationships like this before, when the woman confided how she was trying to figure out a way to leave her man, but if she is relatively happy, don't run too much game. I'm a very loyal friend as well, so I would never game a girl if I was even loose friends with the guy.

If you still want to go for it, you can always take the neutral approach: Just hang out with the girl and be yourself, but don't actively game her. If she advances on you, then she obviously is not loyal to her bf. But like I said, it doesn't seem worth it. There are billions of single ladies, go after one of them. I feel like as men, we should have some type of loyalty to each-other, but I know a lot of guys don't feel this way.

yeh, bigryana, thats what i was thinking. i will just be friends really and take a neutral approach.

Agrees, especially if you know the girl's bf. Even loosely.

If u know her bf then she has to be very willing to fuck u. I have done this once and he never found out and we are all still friends.. Very unusual example tho. Her bf cheated on her all the time like alot alot and she had accepted that and i guess it made her feel better to fuck me like payback or something.. Idk. But she could always turn it around on u and make u look like the bad guy. Even tho it takes two to tango

I have never been one to break up a relationship, unless the guy treated the girl like utter shit. Then you may have a case but in general i feel that if the guy doesn't know his gf is going behind his back for no reason I wouldn't want to be that guy to mess things up further.

There was one time I had a hook up buddy, went on for awhile we would mess around the usual. One day as we are about to get to business her phone rings, she says she has to take it. She sits in front of me does the usual bs talk wanting to get off the phone to whoever was calling her till the end "love you sweetie bye". I ask "uh gay friend? or girl friend?" she told me it was her bf.

After she said that I was pretty turned off that she NEVER mentioned to me that she even had a bf. I made up an excuse and made an exit, never hooked up with the girl again. I will have to admit that i am a morally grey character when it comes down to it but THAT in my mind was crossing the line.

I always feel bad about using boyfriend destoyers, and usually have my best success with them when I'm not meaning to 'destroy' him, as it were.

Example: One time I was out on a work Christmas party. I had a sometimes on/sometimes off girlfriend, and was talking to one of the girls who had a serious relationship. Gradually the conversation turned to our respective other halves and she started to, bit-by-bit, tell me all the ways that he was wrong for her. Now this was without any undue negative chat from me. All I did was ask questions about her and the relationship. To cut a long story short - we hooked up that night.

Another time I went out to meet a friend and her girlfriends. I hadn't seen my friend in a while, so it was primarily a catch-up session for me - strictly no-game. However, I did get chatting to one of her friends who was initially being non-responsive and giving one word answers to questions, so I called her on it. Said something like 'Hey, xxxx, you seem pretty quiet or unhappy - is something up?' And once again, she started to, bit-by-bit, fill me in on her boyfriend - all the little things he did that were wrong, that were making her unhappy. And wouldn't you know it... we hooked up also.

Now I learned a few things from these events:

1: Don't have an agenda in asking about the boyfriend. On each of the above occassions, I went into each conversation with no desire to get these girls to cheat on their respective other halves, but merely for the conversation itself.

2: Don't neg the fella. If she's unhappy with him, she'll do all of that for you. In fact, a few times I came to his defence, trying to explain to her his possible reasons for acting the way he did.

3: Just ask questions Socrates style. Like above, she already knows deep down how she feels about her man, all she needs are the right questions to help her verbalise it.

And I came to the conclusion that (unless you're an A-grade actor) most girls will be able to tell when you're prompting them to talk negatively about their boyfriend. They can tell the difference between a genuine conversation about relationships; and the step-by-step 'conversations-by-numbers' that we employ as pick-up artists. Or rAFC's in my case.

Especially when it comes to BF destroying. Either way, I guess my advice is... just ask questions. She has the answers already, she knows her boyfriend isn't perfect, its your job to help her understand why this is.