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@jurupa: I know it anyway and about the US-laws in having or not having sex with youngsters, too. In my opinion the "sex-laws" in US are somehow ridiculous, no one can stop someone in having sexual intercourse with someone by law, the catholic church has to give it up or churches in common have to give it up to give advice to someone in the how-to's of having sex according to their believes, and the US law can't forbid it too that a 45 year old man doesn't have sex with an 16 year old girl. Beside all the stupid and/or pornographic fantasies in this or such or similar cases it was always ridiculous to forbid having sex with younger or older persons.
You can give advices, yes; but only emotional disturbed people need laws who describe more or less exactly how and with whom the sexual "stuff" should/will work or will not work out.
The problem is not that teenagers don't know how the thing called sex works, they are really well informed about the technics and practice in having sex, the real problem is that they are - like adults as well - not or to less informed about the emotional stuff, all the stuff with feelings, emotions and getting close(er) to each other and more over how to communicate about it with the partner.
This is one of the facts, too why this forum here is necessary: showing people how to communicate their emotions and feelings and how to get closer to each other.
The truth is that 60% of human behavior consist of sexuality, the rest, 40% is there to survive (e.g.: getting involved into community, having a job, being successful in it, earning money).
The better children or youngsters are informed about all the emotional and technical stuff in having sexual intercourse the less it will come to child- or sexual abuse or harassment.
To show a child/youngster what sex is and explain more and closer the emotional stuff is not illegal and amoral - but to force someone for having sex THAT is amoral and illegal.
Anyway you can't forbid it by law but you can forbid it by showing the people that everyone is a free being with free choice for the kind of life he/she likes to live.
Sometimes I think people forgot about it that they are free in will, force, power and enjoying life.
Due to my experience with youngsters and children, I worked with them a lot, their sexuality has the same quality and quantity as the sexuality of adults but it is still different but making secrets about it or saying them to don't talk about it will open all doors to abuse and/or harassment, showing them that they are allowed to talk about everything they want will disable negative experiences with sexuality.
But this goes far beyond the topic of the post here. (:
I agree that US sex laws are bit on the ridiculous side of things overall. And personally I would have no problem with lowering the age of consent to 16. Saying that US considers one of age 18 or older to be a legal adult and by law responsible to make adult decisions. Weather or not one is truly an adult at age 18 is another thing. But the line in the sand had to be drawn somewhere. I agree the law won't stop someone over the age of 18 sleeping with someone under 18, but the punishment for such a thing are high enough that it actually does deter people. As if you do sleep with someone under the age of consent you go to jail for X amount of years and must register as a sex offender which stays for you for life and that is public record.
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The problem is not that teenagers don't know how the thing called sex works, they are really well informed about the technics and practice in having sex,
The problem is this does not hold true for all of the US. There are still schools that only teach absence and nothing else. So teens are not taught about condoms, STD's etc but that they should wait until marriage (as you may have guess the southern states primary teach this). So in turn this only makes teens more curious to have sex, quite counter productive I say.
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the real problem is that they are - like adults as well - not or to less informed about the emotional stuff, all the stuff with feelings, emotions and getting close(er) to each other and more over how to communicate about it with the partner.
Can you really teach such a thing? I think this is one of the things in life you learn on your own and not in a classroom as I don't think it can be taught in the classroom.
Didn't mean to derail the topic, just wanted to reply what you said Lanth.
