hahaha i can already tell i dont like you...lol oh yeh thats a nice road to take on a pick-up website... so you're saying you're so trustworthy that you would never do anything wrong by women?? get the fuck out of here lol... you're on a website which basically teaches you how to manipulate women... i dont care what any cunt says on this site but it seriously is sprinkled with manipulation... you might think its not but it is... so dont come here saying you're such a trustworthy bloke when clearly you're not as truthful as you say you are lol... so do you say everything you're doing during a pick-up to women??? "hey im going to neg you so you think im higher value than you... you may think i dont like you but im really trying to make you fall in love with me by being something im not" haha eat a dick cunt... but whatever each to their own...

basically it comes down to if you really love her then you wont cheat on her...

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You know guys got laid long before Mystery was alive right? You can actually just tell a girl you think she's attractive and you're coming over to hit on her. You don't need to neg, manipulate or lie in any way. I never do.

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guys got laid long before mystery was alive?? really?? wow... i can tell you went to school... nice one... you're a winner

and yeh obviously you CAN do that... but seriously how many beautiful women do you think would respond to that method if you're a fucking ugly cunt?? exactly my point! so pipe down and take your finger out of my pie because its mine... not yours

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How many women do you think would respond to ANY method if you're a fucking ugly cunt?

lol are you serious?? you think everyone that is practising pick up is attractive?? bahaha someone lives a sheltered life... look up a bloke named "Mehow" on youtube... he dominates the ladies and HE'S a fucking ugly cunt... and then tell me if you think before you speak

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Good point.

Second point - you know what women's number ONE universally most attractive trait they look for in a man is? - CONFIDENCE. Just behind HUMOUR and INTELLIGENCE, and looks come down usually bottom of the top ten around 8,9 if at all.

You know what else trumps looks on the list? - HONESTY / INTEGRITY.

By going up to a woman and being really confident, upfront and direct about your romantic intentions, you compress about 10-20 minutes of "attraction building" routines into about 20 SECONDS. If she were EVER going to be attracted to you, she will be after a well-delivered direct approach. If she would NEVER fuck you, then 20 minutes of the tightest INdirect bullshit isn't gonna get you anywhere anyway, and that's time you've wasted talking to her that you could have spent approaching 5 other women and immediately finding out if they're attracted or not.

I don't want to hijack this thread though because my above post was about the relationship issue which is much more interesting than this.

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Bahahaha someone is a fucking idiot and doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about Mehow started teaching pick-up and selling products while he was still a virgin. He's full of shit, just like half the PUA community are. There's no way that guy 'dominates the ladies'. Looks definately do matter, even though guys that try to sell you their products tell you otherwise. Sure some ugly guys can have good success with women, but a model looking guy with the same skills will get more girls. Looks matter, and it doesn't matter what method you use. Now tell me if you think before you speak.

I haven't read over this thread, but I have an opinion. It comes down to the fact that we have all been socially conditioned to believe men and women are the same, and cheating is equally bad for both. In reality, men are biologically designed to spread our seed. Higher testosterone has been linked to "unfaithful" behavior in men. Women who cheat will almost always have some kind of justification process taking place during, and after. An example would be: "He doesn't show me enough attention, so it's his fault I'm screwing this guy." A guy on the other hand does not require this. We are driven biologically, and don't have to convince ourselves of a reason to cheat. We may feel guilt before, during, or after, but if we have a high enough sex drive, it will probably happen. A woman doesn't even necessarily have to be "horny" to cheat, she is usually doing it for some type of affirmation, such as to prove she is "still attractive". I'm sure many guys will disagree, but this is a subject I studied intimately while getting my degree, so I have a fair amount of insight.

One study that comes to mind was involved a sexual scenario for both men and women: A man (confederate) placed himself at a popular location that brought a wide variety of people to it, to achieve a good random sample. He asked a specific number of women (I believe it was 99) who were deemed "too attractive" for him if they would have sex with him in a location he had nearby, no strings attached. He was turned down 100% of the time.

This same exercise was done with a woman. She approached men who were deemed "too attractive" for her (she was very plain looking), and asked the same question. Now keep in mind the people being approached were not asked if they were in a relationship, but it is safe to say roughly half were. 76% of the males agreed to it. This means that if we assume 50% of males are in a relationship, half of them would cheat (in this study) with a random stranger that is not even considered as attractive as them.

My advice would be: don't screw up a good relationship because of cheating. If you are going to do it, NEVER do it with a friend/relative of your girlfriend/wife. IF you are going to do it, be discreet, do it in another town.

It is just as bad. If you've agreed to be exclusive with someone you should stay faithful, whether you have a penis or a vagina. End of story
I do disagree. I've been with girls who have had boyfriends. Good ones that treat them really well. The only reason they would cheat with me is because they're horny and they are sexually attracted to me, just the same as a guy would. I've slept with these girls only to read later on their Facebook statuses "I love my boyfriend so much!". They will always use the "he's not showing me enough attention" excuse, they're really good at coming up with excuses. When I first got with my girlfriend, another girl who wanted to meet me fell out with me. I told my girlfriend this, and she said in these exact words: "she was probably only going to use you for sex, that's why she doesn't still want to be friends with you. I used to do that all the time, lots of girls do. Then we always twist it around so that it sounds like the other guy's fault, we're experts at that". You're doing their job for them with this post, this is exactly why men are seen to be worse for cheating when in reality both sexes are the same.
Women will always reject a lot more than men. That's because it's mainly men that approach women, because we're told that's how it's "supposed" to be. Women get used to saying no because they get asked that thing quite a lot and get really tired of it, yet men never get asked that so they will jump at the chance. We have to work hard to get laid, we have to be persistant, that's why men will jump atthe chance of free sex. Only persistant guys get laid, these results are only from the first approaches. Nothing to do with how we're biologically wired. In fact there are other countries where women approach a lot more than men, I'm willing to bet that if you did this study over there the results would be switched around.
My advice would be: don't screw up a good relationsip because of cheating. If you are going to do it, you're a cunt

Ala elliot spitzer?

I don't see why cheating is a problem, since if you cheat, it is your gf fault for not knowing how to keep you on the loop, and vice versa, if your gf cheat, it is your fault, never blame your problem on someone else man

That is also bullshit. Cheating = lying = you're a cunt. It's not your girlfriends fault if you're a cunt.