Haha just use her crazy BJ ways, and put the next girls head, the exact way you want it and where. She'll love it .

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Some things can't be imitated! you remember when jesus parted the red sea? well her gift from god was being able to do that to a guy!!!

Haha mate your funny, I like it! lol

True say. Maybe your next gift will feel that extra bit better though?

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I think that might've been jesus's bible buddy Moses. She sounds like a psycho with gifted tongue...sounds a little like a curse. Have at it!

LOL!! MOSES!!! I saw her again tonight...much of the same thing! only this time she was sober, we were practically fucking with clothes on so i picked her up and carried her into the bedroom and tried to strip her, only to get stopped again...so I did the whole cock in her hand thing again and she gave me a hand job, actually pulled down her leggins slightly so she could rub my cock against her clit but apprently she couldn't go no further because of time of the month or being due on...still managed to leave my mark on her sheets, i hope the bitch sleeps in it!

ANYTWHO?!

She had txt me a few times over the weekend - while she was out on saturday night too, midway through the night.

Earlier on today we talked about my date with this other girl on tuesday (over txt on my way back down here after being away for the weekend)...she said she was jealous and joked we should meet up on tuesday instead - at this point i said i'd choose her over any of them and to not be jealous! anyways I called her while i was driving down and said I'd come see her later on...

Then face to face she was like "we are just friends", she is calling us "hug buddies" because apparently we shouldnt be "fuck buddies" as it's wrong and not fair on these other girls I'm seeing - she also openly talked about being on the pull the night before, she went on to talk about how I saw "hug buddies" and I just said I'm enjoying the moment for what it is, I said I wouldn't stop her from doing what she wanted to do, I'm not the needy or stalker guys she is used to - I explained the term oneitis, that I view things differently...

she mentioned something about not knowing where she is at, whether the thing we have is just because she is lonely and it shouldn't escalate into sex - then the next minute she is sat on top of me grinding me hard, every time it starts to get crazy she protests - to which I also say "Yeah you're right, this is soooo wrong" but with a little cheeky wink or a smile (to which now I apparently do 'a face'"...she say's she shouldn't tease me and we can never fuck, but when I'm assertive, I instigate or take the initiative she kinda goes along with it - apparently we couldn't blame the booze this time, so i took it on the chin haha.

Going back to Chelios' most recent situation and the post from another forum;

If a woman is not into you;
She will NOT spend hour long conversations on the phone with you.
She will NOT keep going out on dates with you.
She will NOT keep kissing and fooling around with you whn you're together.
She will NOT tell you she's into you or that she's interested in you in any way.
She will NOT stick around after you blatantly tell her that you are interested in her.
She will NOT dangle sex in front of you to entice you into a relationship.
She will NOT have conversation about boyfriends & girlfriends with you.


She is obviously doing all this but then contradicting it by saying she isn't interested, we are only friends and we can never fuck! She also mentioned she didn't want the pressure of any type or relationship

Is this the same? Is she gaming me or what?

To me...it sounds like she wants an aggressive guy, someone that knows what they want but wants to play the I'm an innocent girl role and then have you blow your load in her mouth! Yeah...we can't fuck, we shouldn't...it's just soo wrong...as you are rolling on the jimmy to pound her...It's a matte of time.
I think that may work against you as she isn't blowing the stalkers, However, she is blowing you!

If you can manage to get yourself into another position as you did that last night...it will be on...just do what you did but turn up the heat on her! If you can taste it...you can most definitely hit it!

As of so far, I feel you are playing your cards well! She would dress up and send you a pic if she wasn't into you and wanting more...you just need to crack her little game to crack open the legs!

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Just AGREE with her that you're not looking for a serious relationship at the moment, you do enjoy spending time with her and you guys can just continue having fun regardless of what she wants to call it - friends, fuckbuddies, whatever.

Remember - you HAVE to play push-pull.

At the moment you are pushing and pushing towards sex and she is doing her utmost to RESIST.

Instead, when you guys are "basically fucking with clothes on," you have to be the first to end a kiss, push her off, say "we should slow down" and so on.

Then when she wants to re-engage or does so herself, then push her further forwards towards sex.

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You both make some valid points,

It's easy when I'm sat here but I lose my game face when i got the piece of pussy infront of me! she has already been txting me today asking when we can catch iron man 2 together with a bag or dorito's...

I aim to try the push pull next time, as long as it doesn't interrupt the movie of course haha.

She wants you but doesn't want to look like a slut...she's trying to save face, make you work for it and then of course some silly excuse will be said to validate why she went against her original...we can't fuck excuse. It won't make her look bad on her once she does let you. If she didn't want you, it would have been apparent long ago...show her your Iron Man impression and do Doritos body shots...put Doritos on your body, other has to eat them with out using their hands! Um, that could get messy but make it fun...is my point, she'll want to do another movie night again soon if you do it RIGHT.

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Cedius is right IMO, and Blondguy with his advice, and I feel the same.

She doesn't want to seem a slut, knows your seeing other girls, so is playing hard, but texting you because she knows, she better get in just in-case you choose another one of the girls.

Next time you do kiss, kiss her, then as Blondguy said, push her off, and say "you know what, this is wrong."

Watch her face, you will get a reaction of some sort, probably something verbal too, she will be shocked man!

Your fucking next time you see her.

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Thanks guys...

I saw this chick last night again - 2 in a row! I want to give you guys some of the back and fro between us so you can give me a slap if needs be and give me some food for thought

She was txting me yesterday while I was at work, on the Sunday night when I saw her she was stressing about work because she was off for a few days and she was giving blood last night after work so I gave her some pills for the side effects

ME: Hey beautiful...just wanted to wish you a happy Monday, it won't be that bad...honest x

HB9: I don't believe you, made a coffee and taken a centrum, can I go back to bed now? Ohhh I don't feel too good have a nice day x

ME: Well if it isn't let me know and I'll make it up to you x

Couple of hours pass by;

HB9: You were right as usual, not as bad as I'd imagined, feeling quite good - think it's those magic pills you gave me although I bet I still feel shite after giving blood, hows your day going? x

Me: Looks like I don't have to make it up to you then Keep taking the pills and eating you'll be fine...my day is going great, nice and easy...dreading my gym session later though, still don't feel right after the weekend. x

HB9: How were you going to make it up to me then? there's still time for things to go wrong? I really want some chocolate but can't be arsed to go out for lunch - vending machine it is..bloody extortionate! x

ME: What would your ideal evening be with me? Maybe if you're extra good ill make it happen for you...send someone out for your lunch - you have minions like dr evil! x

HB9: The way I'm feeling - Iron Man 2, Dorito's and hugs! Had a yorkie now and feel sick x

ME: It's a mans chocolate that's why - not for girls! I'm sure I can do that for you, just tell me what time and flavour x

HB9: I like all flavours, ermmm how about hot chilli heat wave? Will be back from the vampires by 7 so any time after that x

ME: Ok awesome...i'll be in touch after i'm back from the gym x

So as I get there I go in and she's arms all over me again all kissy as usual...she's not feeling the best though, bad period pains and is a little woosey from giving blood...I know you guys told me to go all push pull on her but as she was feeling ill I decided just to be there for comfort and not try to sexually escalate.

We watched the movie, all cuddles and stuff...I had my hand down her leggins for most of the night grabbing the flesh of her ass - she never objects to me when I touch her...

There's two things that stood out for me that evening, I want to get your angle on them.

1...She brought up about my date with this other girl on Tuesday night (tonight) I said I didn't know if it was definitely on because I didn't arrange a venue or a time/place and after the weekend I had I didn't really feel up to trekking into London, she was asking questions so I showed her a picture, she said she was hot and proceeded to chat bubble about these other two guys that were on her case blah blah blah! She went on to say that I should go on this date and she would be annoyed with me if I didn't go as she doesn't want what's going on between us to stop me seeing these other girls.

2...She was genuinely grateful for me being there while she was feeling the way she was, she mentioned how normally her best friends or guys would annoy her, she said she would have to babysit them but i'm no hassle, I come in and make myself a drink, sort the food out and evenings entertainment, she didnt have to do anything... normally she would rather be on her own but me being there had made her feel better, she felt down recently but being around me made her happy...she really enjoys my company and thanked me for looking after her - unfortunately not in the same way she had thanked me before (LOL!)

OK I'm still going to go for the push pull thing when she's not bleeding and there's a chance I can escalate it sexually...but what do you guys read between the lines here? Am I playing this right or what?

I think your doing well, and a load of girls wont wnat sex on their period. IMO, it isn;t something I want to do anyway, shag a girl on her blob! lol

Just don't get to friendly before you fuck her, or it will be LJBF. She will implement the " I don't want to ruin our friendship" comment.

She's interested in your date probably to see how interested you are with her, if you go through with it etc, stop feeding her all the ammo, because trying to get her thinking too much could end up in the LJBF zone again, by her thinking your not what she wants, so keep talk casual there.

Set up another meet in a few days when she should be off, maybe just before you go away, and escalate more. Start playing devil's way, and let her know you want her and you want her now and you know she wants it. No girl will let you do all that if she doesn;t want you inside of her!

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So do I go through with it or not then? is she wanting me to cancel tonight because "something didnt feel right" or do I go on the date and try to make her jealous...

Oppps...

OK so because I didn't make arrangements last night and call the chick for tonights date my date is off anyways!

She say's she is cool about it but I think she's annoyed and trying to teach me a lesson...good luck with that haha

Duuuude, what happened to the Doritos body-shots thing from Cedius?

I would make myself a little scarce for the moment. You've had a comfort night. From #2 it sounds a bit like she is slyly training you to be that comfort guy by positively reinforcing your behavior. "Hey, this was great. When guys that want to get in my pants come over, I usually get annoyed, but you're so easy to deal with." She is getting the comfort without having to do anything. "Hug buddies." That is for boyfriends and best friends, and you are neither.

(There is nothing wrong with that; I have a girlfriend, but I'm just saying it doesn't sound like what you want...)

When you do see her again, keep escalating to break that sexual barrier. It is okay if you don't feel comfortable doing it on her period, but if so, make sure next time you see her it isn't a problem.

If you want to be seeing several chicks simultaneously, I'll paraphrase some advice from Blondguy I saw elsewhere (I hope this is accurate)... refuse to discuss the details. I think this girl is playing this out to see if you drop the other(s), but you don't have to play that way. Not talking about your other partners (other than making sure she knows it is an open relationship) is requisite to success.

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