Maaaaate!

Those two lines right there sums it up for me!

Read between the lines here, she fucks outside of relationships but obviously likes you and see's you as a keeper, her social programming has kicked in and she's like she doesn't want you to see her as a slut but proper GF material.

My question to you - Is this a beat and go or are you seriously thinking about getting with this girl?

Hmmm you really think so? Maybe it could mean "I don't want to fuck you" Then again, why waste our time with eachother?

I like her, I don't see her as a fuck and duck thing, I saw her as GF material.

After she says to me, "I don't deal with relationships well" and now "your not my boyfriend, I'd only sleep with you if you were" to me it's mixed signals, or am I really thinking too much and not reading between the lines like you said?

I want her, but we both want to take it easy.

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Mate, she want's you...plain and simple, she is worried you will get bored once you fuck her...

Next time she spouts this "you're not my boyfriend, I'd only sleep with you if you were" your response is, "that's OK, i'm sleeping with someone else, It wouldn't be fair on her"

She want's you, make her miss you, pull on her strings...MAKE HER JEALOUS!!!

When she calls you don't answer, when she BBM's you, don't read it...you're a busy man of mystery, sharing your love to all the hot sexy bitches out there...when she questions where you've been just say i was out with someone, don't say who, be as vague as possible, tell her you don't want to make her jealous.

I think a dvd night is in order, 2 bottles of rose - make sure she drinks most of it, kino her, kiss her, the shit tests will stop...turn the bitch on...YOU WILL FUCK HER!

Yeah your right mate. Fuck this man, I can't get locked in this shit. I've got to learn how to pull on her strings, this is one of my weakest spots, and you've basically singled it out haha.

I usualy respond to her quick, she does most of the time, just lately she's taking a bit longer, we both get busy with work, I don't look at it deeply, but I need to do the same and get her thinking.

Thing I hate with BBM, everyone knows when the message has been read it comes up with a big "R" BBM is so blatent, in a way I wish I never had it. Good ol texts, nobody knowsif you've read them haha.

We're meant to be out friday for a meal, going to isolate her after or the next date. Shame because she isn't a big drinker, but I can raise the sexual tension!

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Yeah fuck that BBM! haha...is it so bad if she see's that you have read it and don't immediately reply? surely they will hint that you are busy doing something or out with someone

I reckon on friday you should plan the meal earlyish then switch the date to somewhere cosy, that way she get's two Chel's for the price of one and you can escalte the fuck out of her - Gambler and AFC Adam mention this, phase shifting or something? can't remember the exact terminology.

I remember watching a video of Adam Lyons and he's like "tell her you're going somewhere to get the best coffee in london, be enthusiastic about how amazing it is" "get her back to your house but along the way keep telling her how amazing the place is, run routines, DHV, etc" then when you're back at your house she'll be like, this isn't a coffee shop "I said I'd get you the best coffee in London, I never said it was at starbucks!" haha...awesome

True what your saying about BBM, but you know how women think, then again fuck it. I should do it, because she started doing it too. This is what gets me thinking, is it games, to draw me in, or is it attraction is getting undone and lost. I spoke to her friend today at work, they speak everyday, best friends, you know how girls are, she says she does like me, or she wouldn;t continue coming out, so fair point.

I think your right too on the phase shifting mate, I'm going to go somewhere else after the meal, either mine or somewhere first, comfortable and fun as well as relaxed.

Your game is coming on real good. Think we need to hit up somewhere soon ...

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Figure out what she isn't saying and you'll truly understand her

Yeah they do it to us so why not to it to them? It's game, drawing you in...the attraction is there as your mutual friend said - she could be useful for inside information or she could feed back that you're asking too many questions so be careful how you play that...

Cheers bro, it's crazy how it's only been a few weeks! I'm up for it when you are..

Of course, play them with their own shit, then maybe that's why they drop it, or get easier.

I'm wary of asking my friend too many questions, because she may feed some back, them being best friends, it's a dangerous game. I usually ask the stuff I don't mind her knowing, so I expect her to tell the girl I'm seeing.

I have a feeling I'm going to just stop soon anyway if she keeps acting difficult, because I have other options, and then she can think, why's he just gone quiet.

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Another little update:

I said to her " Tomorrow, 8pm, around that time kool?" She replies " I dunno, my aunt's gon in to hospital, when i find out what's wrong, i'll see if i can make it."

Flake all over lads. Second time now. I just said "Alright, hope everything's ok" and left it at that.

No more to say now. She wants to talk, let her start something, not really my duty now.

Onto the next, and I've learnt, I gave her too much attention, and because of me knowing her best friend, which was a mistake, should have kept some distance.

Oh well, shit happens.

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Maaaannnnn! seriously...who the fuck would say something like that if it's not true? tempting fate or it's really true...

Leave it, ignore her...don't speak to your mutual friend about her unless you're telling her you're going on a date with someone else!!

Women? LOL.

I agree, fuck tempting fate or making up BS. It could be true, but twice this week something has cropped up now, sure it can happen, but with her behavourial changes this week, the way she's been with me, I'm skeptical.

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Evil lying bitches, who do they think they are?! PUA's?! haha

Focus your attentions elsewhere, go cold turkey on her

@Jits-Great point on her trying to sucker Chelios into getting hooked deeply.

Women are experts at this.

It doesnt mean she has bad intentions.She just knows that she has a role(game)to play.

@Chel-Wow,you've gotten far already(after the drama with your ex).

I have no critiques to give you on your initial post.

The best point you'd eluded to was going with the flow.

You dont wanna rush into a relationship;and you already know that Chel'.

But remember that her job is going to be tryingto suck you into a pre-mature LTR.

In essence she will want to tame you despite she being nonchalant about it.

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P, considering the cold turkey ploy. I just had a training session and she asked how me and her friend are, I said yeah not bad, we hav our moments and laughed. She mentioned that my girl just text her saying her aunt was ill and in hospital, and she wasn't sure what's going on, so perhaps it is true.

I'm in deep consideration now, shall I call tonight, once, to see if she's alright and be alpha, or just leave it all together. I don't want to come off as a prick because yeah, we get on really well, at the same time I don't want to look needy. Opinions?


K, yeah I've got far, it kind of just happened, but remember I have known her for a while too, whilst nothing was there, because we knew of eachother it's progressed in a fast manner. My friend told me, my girls finds me attractive, nice etc, and she even asked her permission to go out with me, because me and my friend are close, she thought something was going on. Jealousy spike maybe?

I do want to go with the flow and not rush into anything. I went into this with the attitude "Let's both have a laugh, joke and a good time and whatever will be will be", but I feel my next move is vital. Either call once and offer some support or leave it all together?

I want to avoid being tamed, if anything, I want to get her to start thinking about me all the time whilst I'm doing my thing.

Thanks guys!

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Ahhh so the lying bitch was telling the truth!!! HA!!

Well the last text you mentioned said that you hope she is OK...leave it for a couple of days, chances are if she needs to talk to someone she will come to you, if you haven't heard anything by Sunday just give her a txt to let her know you're thinking about her and to check if she's ok or needs to talk - showing that you're sensitive when needed is only going to DHV yourself but if something bad is going on it's best to let them come to you rather than hound them down...