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DAY 26: sarging at the Louvre.
Being in paradise without biting the apple.

As planned, I went to the Louvre to try to approach a little. The place was full of HB.

My goals.
- Have 10 advanced social interactions. (EASY)
- Approach 5 set I could date. (HARDER)
- Try at least 1 number close. (HARDER)

In field: the Louvre.
The place was full of HB tourists. Really. It was heaven and I had a good state of mind: I was confident, have a great body language.
- As I was in the line to get my (free) ticket, I noticed two 25 HBs right in front of me. They were speaking English. I wanted to ask them where they were coming from. I did not. I saw they have US passport. I wanted to ask them which state were they coming from and tell them about my experience in Florida. I did not. Fucked opportunity #1.
- Really soon I started to have advanced social interaction with a lot of people: employees, visitors (not HB),... I was sociable. My best interaction was when I asked an employee why there were so many people around this old guy. She answered that he was a sculptor and they were journalists. The conversation was C&F but she was not a HB.
- In the same place, I noticed several art students sketching. A lot of them were HBs. I did not know what to do... so, again, I did nothing. One of them was a wonderful brunette... HB9 easily.
I have wasted so much energy and time being in my head again. I started to have a fucked up headache. Yet I did not want to quit... I stayed, pushed my limits but I needed some fresh air so I left the museum and thought about going to the mall near home.

The Rules of the Game.
There was a problem with the subway. The line was interrupted because of an incident. I decided to go to an English bookstore to check if I could get some book. I saw it, I bought it: The Rules of the Game. I don't know if I'm going to do the challenge or not. But I wanted to buy it "in case of"... if I do not have the success I want in Brazil, I'll do it.

Results.
- Have 10 advanced social interactions. => DONE
- Approach 5 set I could date. => 0.
- Try at least 1 number close. => 0.

My learnings.
Well, let's be honest. I have made huge improvements in my life since I'm in the Game:
- Eye-contact: I used to avoid it => I do not fear it now, I maintain it and love to look a women in the eyes.
- Body language: I used to be discrete, walk fast, keep the head down => I keep the head up, I'm proud and able to enjoy myself.
- Smile: I used to hide my smile because I thought it was stupid (despite the fact that all my previous girlfriends loved my smile) => I smile, with my teeth, with my eyes.
- Approaching: I used to avoid all kind of interactions => I now enjoy interacting with people.
- Holding conversation: I was not even speaking to people before => I'm able to hold a conversation with a complete stranger and even with a HB (need to practice more though).
- KINO: I used to be bad at it, touching girls like a damn virgin (hovering hands) => I go for it, I grab the girls, kiss her hello, touch them... (girls I know for now).
- Push/Pull: wtf is that? => I enjoyed pushing/pulling an old HB friend of mine, it worked as hell.

My sticking points.
I feel I can take my game to the next level after tackling these issues... but we don't call them sticking points for nothing...
- Get the conversation skill into my Game! I have to bring that right after the opener. I know I can do it, but I have to prove it to myself.
- Have BALLS, be a fucking and just go for it. For now, I don't have the mojo. I need a "fuck it" mentality to learn and take me to the next level. (Masturbation killed my balls... I'm a pussy right now.)
- Get out of my mind: I'm spending energy and time thinking about what to tell, what to do, what I'm going to write in my learning journal...

Message to my readers.
I wanted to say something to my readers. Maybe some of you are tired of how slow I'm going (PUAs?). Maybe some of you are impressed by all this (newbies?)...It doesn't matter, here is what you need to know about me:
I did make a commitment to myself: I want to be a better man, I want to be able to approch women, to attract them, to make them love me and love them back... I'm sticking with it and won't give up: quitting would be giving up on myself. I'll never do that.
Yes, I have good days and bad days. Yes it sometimes takes more time than expected. Yes it is exhausting sometimes. I accept it. That's the little price to pay to be in control.
This is not about motivation. Motivation comes and goes. It makes your journey faster or slower. But it's DEDICATION that will get you to your destination.
I do have this dedication: I'll be there sooner or later.


In 2 weeks I'm going to São Paulo Brazil (I'm bringing you with me guys!). I have to slow down a little to prepare everything for the departure. I'll keep posting though.

The Game must go on.

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I fucking love this...

Just to say, I'm on a similar mission. I've basically endured the worst shit imaginable last year... Although, partly some of it is to do with bad luck or my own shortcomings.

I've been in pick-up for over three years... I've learnt a great deal but is still no way near close to hitting my goals. I've had a lot of set backs but my goal is to open every other day and to get a great gym body.

All my friends have deserted me so I'm all alone but looking to go on. This thread has certainly motivated me!

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Yeah man. I think that it is really time to start trying out your skills in the game. You're social, comfortable with talking to people, touching them, and your level of motivation is still very high, so now is the time to act. I'm happy I've found your journal, it makes it a lot easier that I'm not alone on the journey. Keep it up! The game has to, the game MUST go on.

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I fucking love this...

Just to say, I'm on a similar mission. I've basically endured the worst shit imaginable last year... Although, partly some of it is to do with bad luck or my own shortcomings.

I've been in pick-up for over three years... I've learnt a great deal but is still no way near close to hitting my goals. I've had a lot of set backs but my goal is to open every other day and to get a great gym body.

All my friends have deserted me so I'm all alone but looking to go on. This thread has certainly motivated me!
That's the kind of journey we have to do by ourselves... What matters is our commitment!

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I feel like I'm reading a novel, you have a knack for story telling. You probably should use this in field.
I wish you could read me in French Hobbit :) I love story telling. Yet I don't really control the narrative line here... (okay I control it but it's not like I could invent the whole story...).
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I don't want to see any more excuses -- you are generally good at admitting when you screwed up.
Yeah... That's true, admitting when I screw up is not a skill I need to improve... lol. More seriously, I have to be honest in my learning journal, I don't hide any failures, don't sex up any successes. Just the plain stories... I have to keep track of all this honestly so I can measure my improvements.

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Yeah man. I think that it is really time to start trying out your skills in the game. You're social, comfortable with talking to people, touching them, and your level of motivation is still very high, so now is the time to act. I'm happy I've found your journal, it makes it a lot easier that I'm not alone on the journey. Keep it up! The game has to, the game MUST go on.
As you said! It IS time to take action!

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DAY 27: receiving a nice Facebook message.
Seing some seeds growing?

I don't know how to interpret that, but just after my breakup, I started to go out more and met a beautiful HB8. That was before starting this learning journal. Since I was starting to read some PUA material, I tried some things on her in a party a friend of mine hosted.

The party.
I was aware that I was an AFC and try to change my state of mind. I was basically enjoying myself at this party and speaking to a lot of girls. It was just before going back to Paris (my business school is not in Paris). I was confident, knew almost everybody and wanted to get closer to this HB7,5: I wanted some information, I wanted to KINO her and all. I maintained eye-contact and had several advanced conversations with lot of girls. At some moment, I was surrounded by three girls listenning to me (DHV) and how I felt about my breakup. I wanted them to know that I was available for a new story despite the fact that I was going to Brazil. One of these three girls was HB7,5... I succeeded in having the info that I wanted: she is single... single for more than a year. That was a shock actually but I played it cool: I hugged her. That was a nice result for me.

In Paris.
Few days later, I left for Paris. She is from Paris too but we were unable to see each other (she spend her holidays with her family). We did exchange some text-message and that's all. But yesterday I received a facebook message from her. (the last news I had from her was a text message for new year).

The Facebook message.
Here the message I received yesterday: (translated to English right after).
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Object: Hello!
Hey Daniel!
How are you?
I guess you're still in France and have not left for Brazil yet. If it's the case, I hope you're enjoying your last moments in France.
Here, all is ok but the semester is harder than the first one, we work a lot and the nights are shorts. That's why I could not give you news as often that I wanted but it's getting better.
This saturday, it's the Gala (graduation ceremony, like prom but for the grown ups), I don't know if you planned to come. If you do, it would be cool to see each other before you leave for Brazil. *A friend of mine* and *someone that I actually don't even know* will be there. Keep me updated, maybe you want me to get your ticket. Give me some news anyway :) Hope everything is okay for you. Kiss! See you soon, at least through instant messaging!
Don't really what to think about this... Is she just being nice? Maybe the seed I planted is growing... don't know. Anyway, I'm not going to the Gale, I'm leaving in two weeks and I can't see her... I still have to answer though... If you have some ideas...

Before my learning journal.
I wanted to take this opportunity to keep track of this party. It was the first party I spent knowing that I was an AFC... Few days later I started my journal. Truth is, a lot happened between the breakup and the learning journal. I was still studying in school, and I met new people. I even had a one-itis... but it's not time to speak about that... but I'll tell you everything when I'll have some news of these girls.

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Perhaps she is just being friendly, but it looks to me like she might have some interest for you (or perhaps acting out on the interest of one of her firends). Who knows. Don't be afraid to tell her that you are busy and can't go to this gala. Busy = good. If I was you I would throw in something to her so that if she has interest in you she can follow it up. Say you can't go that you have plans already for that day. Make her know you are leaving in 2 weeks and that you would like to see her before you leave. Tell her a date you are available and invite her to do something (something specific... not just the "let's do something together").

If you don't have time to see her at all then well.. answer her and tell her what's going on in your life and stay in touch with her on FB. Perhaps she will turn into a friend (it's far from a bad thing to have good looking girls)

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Perhaps she is just being friendly, but it looks to me like she might have some interest for you (or perhaps acting out on the interest of one of her firends). Who knows. Don't be afraid to tell her that you are busy and can't go to this gala. Busy = good. If I was you I would throw in something to her so that if she has interest in you she can follow it up. Say you can't go that you have plans already for that day. Make her know you are leaving in 2 weeks and that you would like to see her before you leave. Tell her a date you are available and invite her to do something (something specific... not just the "let's do something together").

If you don't have time to see her at all then well.. answer her and tell her what's going on in your life and stay in touch with her on FB. Perhaps she will turn into a friend (it's far from a bad thing to have good looking girls)
I already consider her as a friend. But really few girl friends actually write that kind of message to me. The last time I had news from her, it was a text message wishing me a good year. That's why I'm a bit surprised. I am interested actually. The problem is she is not in Paris right now, but in the city where my school is. So I can't do nothing, not even practice. I'll write her a message to tell her that I'm busy and I won't go.

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Dude I think your definitely a contender bro so your right in the picture. She wants you hard so tell her along the lines of...

"Hey I can't make it to your ceremony but put up some pictures on facebook so I can comment on how dorky you'll look. I'll be leaving in Brazil and focus on becoming a successful high roller you know the kind your type likes? Haha Anyways whenever I come back we should definitely get some coffee and we can catch up and tell how things have been. See you in the other side, chao."

Give her the gift of missing you.

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DAY 28: recovering slowly from a couple of days of weak game.
Conversations, conversations...

Today's subjects: the Facebook message, thoughts on my inner game and the field report of today's session.

The Facebook message.
I called my roomate yesterday and told him about the message. He received the exact same message, she just replaced "Brazil" by "China"... I guess I can't take it as a IOI now that I know that. It seems like she is taking care of her network... Weird. Anyway, I'm going to follow LyricalDream and HappySlip. I sent her a message and I'll escalate while in Brazil in order to get a drink with her when I'll be back.

A weak inner game.
The last day I've been really proud of was DAY 23. I've been able to open a set of 3 girls in a bar. The subject: religion. I kept the conversation going for almost an hour. That was a great result for me. Since that day, I've been facing a really weak inner game. I don't really know why... Is it because I think to much about it? Is it because I've started reading thing about it (The Power of Now)? Is it because of masturbation? (well I know the answer of the last question). Is it the family issues that I am facing right now? (it's surely linked)
Anyway, I've lost the little spark of crazyness that allowed me to progress so quickly in the first days. I've even lost the feeling of AA: I was unable to approach but it didn't feel like AA, just a lack of urge.

My goal.
LyricalDream coached me yesterday through SPAM. The conversation was very inspiring and I realized that I was doing something wrong. I was thinking about # closing. I should not. I should focus on what I need to learn right now: holding conversation with a HB, that's all.
- Have a conversation with 5 sets.

In field.
I went to the mall today. At my surprise it was very slow. I was confident, smiling as never, having a good body language
- As I left the train station and start walking to the mall, I noticed a set of 2 HB holding paper bags of a fast food. I asked them where I could find the fast food in question as a warmup. No conversation here, but that was a good first interaction for my confidence.
- At the Subway, I saw a HB eating by herself. I wanted to sit next to her and start a conversation but she left as I was getting my damn sub.
- Since the mall was slow, I started to speak to employees. I asked some question about photography to a woman (not HB at all), we spoke for 5 min, she answered my questions, nothing more.
- I went to Pepe Jeans clothe store and noticed two HB8 employees. I stayed, looked at some jeans hoping one of the came to me but they did not. Anyway, I should have done something. I fucked up, this one is on me.
- I went to a Springfiel clothe store and I started to feel it: AA! (that's a damn good thing, read after). I was hesitating to speak to a 30yo sexy HB employee. I hesitate and said fuck it. I went and asked her in a C&F way if they had shorts (it's kind of cold in Paris, lol). I told her that I was going to Brazil and wanted to buy some. She answered that the Spring collection is coming and that they have already received flip-flops. I acted surprised and we spoke a little. I said I'll come back. The conversation lasted 6/7 min but the vibe was good. That's a good result.
- Right after I went to the G-Star store and an employee (a man) noticed me. I think he actually remembers me now that I have been in that mall almost every day. He asked me how I was, I asked him back and we had a 10 min conversation about clothes. He was trying to sell something so I don't consider that as a result. Yet, some weeks earlier, I would have just said: "I'm just looking".
- Then I went to the Auchan (French-like Wallmart). Coming from nowhere, an HB7,5 employee. Spontaneity. Let's go. Say whatever comes to my mind... But, coming from nowhere too, approach anxiety. Shit. She left. I walked back to try to fix my mistake but did not find her. I fucked up once again.
- I went to another store and had a conversation with a guy about photography again. He was an employee and answered my questions... nothing more.
I went home after. I might go out tonight, I need to get crazy right now.

Results.
- Have a conversation with 5 sets. => 1/5.
In the end, I really have a conversation with the 30yo HB. That's a mixed result.

About approach anxiety.
It's back and it's great! As I told you, I was not even feeling it these last days and that was not a good thing... I was lacking the urge/motivation to actually take action. The fact that AA is back shows me that I'm getting back on the right tracks. I actually felt good about it... Now that I have experience this lack of motivation to take action, I'm starting to love my AA. It's this little rush of anxiety that makes me want to go for it. Is AA the spark I was waiting to come back for? I hope so.

Taking measures to get back on the right tracks.
Of course, I've been thinking about this very particular lack of urge (surprised? lol). Here are some practical stuff what I came up with thanks to the community.
- MEDITATION: I already spoke about it. I've been doing meditation daily for about 5 days now. It's still hard to empty my mind. I'm reading The Power of Now and it really helps me to understand that I am not my mind, I can stop my compulsive thinking. I need to practice more of course to master this art. It will help me to stop the negative thinking pattern that prevents me to take action. [Thanks to Hobbit and TheJ]
- REWARD SYSTEM: The lack of urge/motivation to take action might be tackled by a reward system. Basically, I get a reward for doing my homework. I've been thinking about it and I find the perfect reward for me: music. I love music, I love to listen to my MP3 player. From now on, I won't listen to music until I've achieved my goals. [Suggested by LyricalDream]

What I've learned.
- I have to love my approach anxiety: that's the emotion that makes me want to surpass myself (I think).

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You'll get in a situation where you think you'd like to get into a conversation but you might not follow through. This is OK! Really not a big deal. BUT . . . you must give it some thought after the situation passes and write in your journal. Maybe something like, "That girl/guy had an umbrella. I could have asked her, 'Oh, you checked the weather. It's going to rain this afternoon isn't it?"

Here's what will happen. When you start, you will possibly WRITE a lot more than you INTERACT. But as you fill your journal, you will notice that you are able to write your 'ideas' a lot sooner after the situation ended. You will notice the lag between "end of situation" and "writing exercise" continue to shorten until you find yourself actually SAYING the things you planned to write. Eventually, you'll interact far more than you will write.

This is a great way to start.
Great advice as usual. I actually already do that by mind: I could have said that, or this... I'll write about it the next time I have a conversation. The real sticking point for me is how to get to that conversation stage with a total stranger that has no reason to speak to me. That's what I need to master.

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DAY 28: going out at night.
Going to a bar.

I decided to go to a bar with a friend in Paris. I had no particular goal for tonight since I'm not familiar with night game and my friend is not in PUA stuff at all (7 years relationship)

About opening.
I was really wondering lately about my openers. Indeed, it's hard to find a transition for a conversation when you asked for direction... (wait... unless you actually ask something about the place you're looking for... damn, it's an epiphany...). Anyway, I spoke with LyricalDream about that issue. He really helped me understand that there is nothing wrong about just coming, say hi and being friendly. He also gave me a little exercice to make me better at "making a spontaneous remark" to open a set.

Opening in the train to Paris.
When I got into the train, I noticed an odour of food (fish actually). I was wondering where it came from when I noticed that girl in front of me had a plastic bag with a meal in it. That was the perfect occasion to open. I was sat, relaxed, smiling... but I hesitated. The AA was doing its work. I waited 4 stations to finally open my mouth and say something. People near us were speaking really loud and she looked at them and then looked at me with a smile. I smiled back and asked her about the bag.
ME - You know what, I was trying to guess what kind of food you had in your bag. Is it fish?
HB 6 - Yeah that's fish. (sooo shy)
ME - What kind of cuisine is it?
HB 6 - It's African.
ME - That's what I thought, one of my roomates used to cook stuff like that, that was delicious.
HB 6 - ...
I did not really know what to say after that so I said nothing... she left at the next station, I told her to "enjoy the meal".
I am pretty happy with that result since I actually got the balls to open her, and it went well. I opened a complete stranger and started a conversation with her in a situation in which she had no reason to talk to me. Actually, it's good to have something to learn from tonight.

Replaying the conversation.
Here's the little exercice from Kasabi Hobbit suggested me. What I could do after that:
- Ask her name and basic questions: where do you come from? what do you do?
- Ask her where she got it? Is it a nice restaurant? You cooked it? Where is it?
- Tell her it's not good to eat so late (=> C&F)
- You look shy (=> Neg) (I realized that when I have nothing to say, I could just comment the reaction of the girl)
- ...

In field: the bar.
We went to a bar near Bastille. There was no place to sit so both of us stand up with our drinks. The music was nice and as I started to talk to my friend, I took a look around and saw some HB in groups of friends. Since we were only two guys standing and speaking in the middle of the bar, I had no DHV. Yet I tried to have a good body language, smile, enjoy myself. I even noticed some girls checking me. Following LD's advice, I wanted to have some friendly interactions with guys in the bar to get some DHV, but we did not stay long enough for that (we came late: suspect package in the subway). Anyway, I enjoyed being in a bar and really felt that I could do some nice game in such a place. But I need some friends to go out with.
I can't stop thinking about two years ago, when I was fucking popular in my school. I actually even knew the Brazilian DJ in the bar I used to go to meet international student. I had DHV as hell but ended in a LTR. If only I knew the Game!

What I've learned.
- I can open and start a conversation just by saying "hi".
- I can open and start a conversation by making a spontaneous remark.

Seems like I'm definitely getting back on the tracks.

The Game must go on.

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Hey I think you should get David DeAngelo's e-book http://www.doubleyourdating.com/

Thats how I learned most of my stuff, there are tons of questions that people have asked that may be similar to yours. It also gives successful stories and you can use to your game. It won't solve everything but it will definitely help you a lot. Btw I'm not marketing I just think he's cool.

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I love this thread! Keep going man!

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