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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 2:15 am 
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It's pretty clear what your problem is, if the way you talk online is genuinely the way you think. You're a condescending prick that thinks he's too good for most people. I mean, what makes you so smart? You're stuck in a place you apparently hate, that's not terribly genius of you. You clump women together into the categories of bible thumpers or boring nurturers and then find fault with both groups. People are more idiosyncratic than you think, if you want to dismiss women as being not good enough for you based on groups you assigned them to, that sounds like the MO of a coward that's scared of liking a girl. Feel free to argue, but I already made up my mind and I'm in no mood to listen to arguments in favor of small-mindedness. You're a big fish in a tiny pond, I get it.

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It's pretty clear what your problem is, if the way you talk online is genuinely the way you think. You're a condescending prick that thinks he's too good for most people. I mean, what makes you so smart?
Birth, actually. Lots of people have their qualities and talents, I'm not knocking what others excel at, but I was born smarter than most people. In the analytic "book smart" sense. I don't really care if you feel threatened or put off by that. I don't feel put off by a heavyweight UFC athlete. I don't even mind his 'tude, usually. His job is to punch people in the head, so he needs some 'tude.
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You're stuck in a place you apparently hate, that's not terribly genius of you.
You'd be surprised at the non-linearity of intelligence and financial success. It might interest you that Nicola Tesla died in debt.
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You clump women together into the categories of bible thumpers or boring nurturers and then find fault with both groups. People are more idiosyncratic than you think, if you want to dismiss women as being not good enough for you based on groups you assigned them to, that sounds like the MO of a coward that's scared of liking a girl.
Well, most people who believe in religions are cowards, because they can't face death, and the cruel universe that doesn't give a shit if all memory of you is erased forever. Some religious people are not cowardly, just misguided, but they're the exception rather than the rule.

Boring nurturers, that's just how I feel about them. They have their place in a functioning society, but that doesn't mean that they excite me or that I want to date them. Health care is one of the major industries in this town, so lotsa boring nurturers. If they're so idiosyncratic, why do all their fucking personals say exactly the same things? At a minimum it means they're lazy about communicating with anyone they might date.
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Feel free to argue, but I already made up my mind and I'm in no mood to listen to arguments in favor of small-mindedness. You're a big fish in a tiny pond, I get it.
There's small mindedness and then there's keeping it real. Yeah, I'm a Hater. But you're lying to yourself if you hate nothing.


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Hate is a pretty strong word. I honestly can't say I hate a lot anymore, except men who beat and rape, but that's the PC answer. You got a chip on your shoulder and it's pretty revolting. It's funny that you're so impressed with your own intelligence because there's a strong correlation between intelligence and unhappiness. But maybe you realize you're cursed. When you get older you'll realize that in your adult life you've always gotten exactly what you deserve.

You can knock religion all you want, but there is no science that proves god or the afterworld is fiction. You can also read there's no center in the brain that's been correlated with the human "mind" yet. It's entirely possible the mind can exist without brain function, it hasn't been disproved. For being "booksmart", you have a really narrow world view.

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Hate is a pretty strong word.
Yes it is. I hate people of lower intelligence a little too strongly. Working on that. I can't honestly think of anything else I hate. EDIT: 10 minutes after I wrote that, I thought of 2 more things. The computer industry, and that I haven't lived up to my own high standards of intellectual achievement. I believe I will eventually live up to the latter one, so it will go away. But when that happens, stupid people and a stupid industry will still be there. Will I still hate them?
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You got a chip on your shoulder and it's pretty revolting.
I don't really care about your value system in this regard. My value system is being truthful about where we all stand. No different than AFC vs. PUA frames of reference.
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It's funny that you're so impressed with your own intelligence because there's a strong correlation between intelligence and unhappiness.
Assuming it's a true statement, what of it? Does that mean you'd rather be happy, even if it made you dumb?
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But maybe you realize you're cursed.
Everyone has some "curse." Life is suffering.
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When you get older you'll realize that in your adult life you've always gotten exactly what you deserve.
Actually what you get is interaction with your environment and the pain of history. Some things are bigger than you.
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You can knock religion all you want, but there is no science that proves god or the afterworld is fiction.
Actually there is, it's just ignored by people who conflate Faith with scientific method, claiming they are both "beliefs." These are (unexceptionally) stupid people who can't wrap their heads around science, so they think it's all the same. That's why these people actually argue about teaching Young Earth Creationism in schools. If you want to see how completely pathetic it gets, check out the Creation Museum. http://creationmuseum.org/

The willingness of people to ignore overwhelming anthropological evidence is disturbing as well. The motives of organized religion are rather easy to understand in that framework. Guess what, Israel is one tiny blip in the cosmos! Ah well, those who don't study history are doomed to repeat it, and people don't like to study.
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You can also read there's no center in the brain that's been correlated with the human "mind" yet.
Even the internet doesn't rely on centralized information flow. This is a very boring idea, to insist that the physical structure of consciousness must be "centralized." It's a network of neurons, duh.


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Birth, actually. Lots of people have their qualities and talents, I'm not knocking what others excel at, but I was born smarter than most people. In the analytic "book smart" sense. I don't really care if you feel threatened or put off by that. I don't feel put off by a heavyweight UFC athlete. I don't even mind his 'tude, usually. His job is to punch people in the head, so he needs some 'tude.
So what if your book smart, do you think that makes you better than others and makes it okay for you to insult random girls online? You can feel superior all you want, the long you keep up this act the longer you remain single and lonely.


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She wasn't random.


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You care about people's opinions too much. It is obvious from all the "comebacks" you wrote to other people in this thread. You are a cool guy. Be cool.


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At one point, I cared about giving you outside perspective so you can get out of your head. You're just not ready for it. There's only 2 futures for you, you'll either become someone who cares about social norms and find it's easier and more fulfilling to go with the societal current, or you will continue to consider yourself an alien and passive aggressively lash out at unsuspecting women, creating more negativity in an already negative world. Go cry emo kid, and then think about your life. Oh right, I mean I don't care.

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At one point, I cared about giving you outside perspective so you can get out of your head.
I don't think you realize that I didn't quite need you to get out of my own head, although I thank you for playing along anyways. This thread has been the single most valuable thing I've done here for me personally. We all have our process.

Where am I now? I'm slightly kinder. But I'm also slightly closer to the place that fenixz alluded to, and not so eager to follow a gameplan I previously had about a certain waitress at a certain bar. In all honesty, I don't enjoy that bar. Well, I may go back there anyways, to draw. I cannot deny that it has a lot to draw. Things, people, behaviors....

Reading a zillion posts, and answering dozens, can make you think "ok, why do I regard myself as having a problem?" Meaning, it can change you. Depending on where you are at in life. You're right, fenixz. I will go be cool. I am a cool guy.

I'm down to an average of 5 minutes a day of POF.


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She wasn't random.
I am not talking about the girl with the kids. I am talking your plan of action or your "Neg on Steroids" plan.


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She wasn't random.
I am not talking about the girl with the kids. I am talking your plan of action or your "Neg on Steroids" plan.
Ah, yeah, well, I thought better of that. Call it an outburst. A bolt of lightning that strikes before the thunder of realization. If I had done it, they wouldn't have been random either. Which made me think, just what do I need to do this for?

What has really happened, is I've all but written off POF. It is not worth my time. The ads on there really are 95% low caliber vs. other ads I've seen other places in the past. I only poke at it occasionally because I do have a personal on there. Eventually I may find a better venue, but I'm not putting much energy into online game right now, so I don't know where "better" is. I may yet try that experiment with taking out a Seattle personal, since I did think the personals were ok there once upon a time.


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She wasn't random.
I am not talking about the girl with the kids. I am talking your plan of action or your "Neg on Steroids" plan.
Ah, yeah, well, I thought better of that. Call it an outburst. A bolt of lightning that strikes before the thunder of realization. If I had done it, they wouldn't have been random either. Which made me think, just what do I need to do this for?

What has really happened, is I've all but written off POF. It is not worth my time. The ads on there really are 95% low caliber vs. other ads I've seen other places in the past. I only poke at it occasionally because I do have a personal on there. Eventually I may find a better venue, but I'm not putting much energy into online game right now, so I don't know where "better" is. I may yet try that experiment with taking out a Seattle personal, since I did think the personals were ok there once upon a time.
The thing is why are you even online in the first place? You live in a city with a pop in the 200k. There is no reason for online dame for you. Get your ass off the computer and talk to girls in person. I agree that POF is not the best place for online game anymore (primary due to POF's owners ruining the site in the name of money, I bet it will turn a pay site in the near future or pretty darn close to it). But if you are so set on online game then you may want to try Facebook. I use to shoot down facebook, but I the more I think about it the better it may be for online game.


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The thing is why are you even online in the first place? You live in a city with a pop in the 200k. There is no reason for online dame for you. Get your ass off the computer and talk to girls in person.
I think I explained this earlier, but I'll explain it again. Online has the advantage of being open 24/7. Towns of 200k are "sleepy," you can't just go out whenever you want and have women to hit on. Small towns don't have massively good clubs or whatever where there's lotsa options. You go out to some bar and if you're looking for personality factors as well as looks, the bar patrons can leave a lot to be desired. Not so much people being creepy, that's not the problem, but just people being too young and bland. It's very random whether anyone in a bar actually shares life interests with you, especially when the town's dominant industries are medicine and tobacco.

The best antidote to that, I've found, is to go to Art events. Those happen frequently enough to be useful, but they don't happen every day, nor at every time of the day. Sometimes the Art event comes and I'm just not in the mood, don't have the energy, and want to get "real work" done on my own. Online is a way of fitting more things into a schedule. This is actually where the online sites get most of their initial business, from women who are "sick of bars."

In Winston-Salem you can't just go out and meet adults hanging out at coffee houses during the day, like in Seattle. There's nowhere that anybody lollygags around. It doesn't have the urban density, it is sprawl. People stay at home because they think their homes are more entertaining. They're suburbanized. Or, they're at church (gag). I've gone downtown on a Sunday afternoon several times, and my impression has always been, "Wow, this place sucks, where is everybody?"

Raleigh, NC, is more civilized than Winston-Salem. There's more of an infrastructure of people "doing things," although it's hardly a Seattle. Last time I got tired of W-S I moved to Raleigh for 1.5 years, but Raleigh still bored me, and I failed to figure out what I wanted at the time. So I left, and ran off to the mountains, but my stuff got stolen and now I'm back in W-S again. I don't have to stay here, I'm just working with where I actually am right now.

Asheville, NC, up in the mountains is also more civilized, but not a big population, the demographics seem too young, and most importantly there aren't many jobs up there.

Charlotte, NC, is a big boring banker's town. Lots of people but the place is soulless. Raleigh is much more "the brain trust" of this state, it's better for me in that way. Too bad that brain trusts often mean less women to go around.

I don't have to stay in NC but it's not clear to me where I will go. I have a dog so I can't just leave the continent.


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I think I explained this earlier, but I'll explain it again. Online has the advantage of being open 24/7. Towns of 200k are "sleepy," you can't just go out whenever you want and have women to hit on. Small towns don't have massively good clubs or whatever where there's lotsa options. You go out to some bar and if you're looking for personality factors as well as looks, the bar patrons can leave a lot to be desired. Not so much people being creepy, that's not the problem, but just people being too young and bland. It's very random whether anyone in a bar actually shares life interests with you, especially when the town's dominant industries are medicine and tobacco.
I know this is a matter of opinion, but a town of 200k+ people is not a small town. The actual city I live in has LESS people than the city you live in. There are 130k people in the actual city I live in. Yes I live in Orange County, California which has millions of people living in it. But to say where you live is a small town personally is far from the truth. Saying that yes smaller towns may not offer a lot in the way of social activities compare to big cities. But dude think out side of the box here. There has to be clubs or classes at local college (assuming there is one) you can take to meet girls. I think your problem is you are too use to big city life and not exactly use to a smaller city where things tend to be simpler.
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The best antidote to that, I've found, is to go to Art events. Those happen frequently enough to be useful, but they don't happen every day, nor at every time of the day. Sometimes the Art event comes and I'm just not in the mood, don't have the energy, and want to get "real work" done on my own. Online is a way of fitting more things into a schedule.
If you are this lazy can you really complain about the quality of girls you been finding? If you want a high quality girl you are going to have to work at it. You can't just expect to find some high quality girl to fall in your lap and have her swoon over you just like that. It takes time and effort (ie work) to find and grab high quality girls. If you think you can take the easy route here, think again.
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This is actually where the online sites get most of their initial business, from women who are "sick of bars."
You do know this more applies to girls that are in big cities right and not the smaller ones? As this is where a lot of the dating sites are focused at marketing wise.
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In Winston-Salem you can't just go out and meet adults hanging out at coffee houses during the day, like in Seattle. There's nowhere that anybody lollygags around. It doesn't have the urban density, it is sprawl. People stay at home because they think their homes are more entertaining. They're suburbanized. Or, they're at church (gag). I've gone downtown on a Sunday afternoon several times, and my impression has always been, "Wow, this place sucks, where is everybody?"
And I have to ask, why did you move there in the first place. And secondly why are you staying there. You seem to have like Settle way more, move back there or move to another major city. New York, New York I don't think is that far and has way better arts show case to boot. Plus Wall Street is there, which I would think logically would mean an easier chance to run into a higher quality girl no?
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I don't have to stay in NC but it's not clear to me where I will go. I have a dog so I can't just leave the continent.
Its pretty clear to me you need big city life as you can't stand life in a smaller city. Why you moved to a smaller city is beyond me.


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