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Hello everybody.

I want to begin this weirdly LONG post saying that I've discovered pickup artist quite recently.
Yesterday, to be precise. Totaly randomly. And it is changing the view of my past life and shaping my present life itself as I write this down. And I will explain you, even if you are not interested in it. I dont know if you'll read it all, but there is going to be a freaking twist ending to this story... Lol... So let's start.

I am an Italian. I'm 30 years old now, I've been living in Italy for 29 of this 30 years.
I've always been a freaking AFC through all my puberty. Never kissed a girl. Never speaking to them. Very awkward interaction, and all the usual sh1t.

Then I went to university in Bologna, I had some adventures there, but still I was not fulfilled by what I was doing, above all with girls. There was a barrier, a freaking huge ineffable barrier I couldnt explain, that was between me and an ideal "being happy" situation. Why I cant get nice girls? Why I get refused so much? What can I do?

I really start putting myself in a regimen of serious improvement. I did gymnastic for a couple of years (you know, ring, pommel horse, vault, parallel bars, horizontal bar, floor). Then gradually shifted to breakdancing for three years. And for one year private lessons of martial arts (Jeet Kune Do, MMA, Submission Grappling). Then I started Parkour, never really got any far, but still.
I started cooking all kind of recipies, watching weird vintage movies, listening to all kind of '60/'70 prog-rock music and all the sh1t a girl would consider valuable (I thought and I still think on some level). Valuable from a relationship point of view. Not certainly valuable as an approaching point of view.

BUT my freaking attitude versus social interaction with girl remained the same. Very awkward, very frustrated. In one word, a SUPER AFC.

Then I falled in love with a girl that was in my University. I started doing every kind of MISTAKE, one after an other. Like begging her to go out with me. Calling all the times. Going out in places I knew she was. Buying tickets for concerts and pushing her to come with me. Buying her super-nice gift for her birthday and all this kind of stupid sh1t you do when you're crazy for someone.

I got refused time after time. Needless to say, my mood was underground. I felt like I've never put so much work for a girl and I was getting so little, almost nothing from her.
Reading The Game would have improved me so much at this point of my life! If only I came across this stuff 5 years ago!

So, desperate, I decided to move to Greece for one year of university, under a program called Erasmus. To change air.
It was the best time of my life (so far!). It was my closest time to a PUA I've ever been.
Of course I made a HUGE amount of mistakes, above all in Kino Escalation, that is my weak point.
BUT I was appoaching EVERY girl on sight, going in, opening, smiling, learning, speaking, not afraid of seeming a fool. Mass did the difference. I approached hundreds of girls.
I got laid and laid and laid. I even score an HB8.5, a freaking hot Romanian girl, with witch I had a close purely sexual relationship that lasted for months (even if both me and her screwed around a little bit).
I have to say, my opener was always kind of weak, but I always spoke english with a weird accent. So the girls recognize I was a foreign in that country, I couldnt speak Greek and they were usually looking forward to help and speak. And I stimulate curiosity as well. They couldnt help helping me!
An other opener was "pretending" to read some greek stuff and then ask the girl the meaning of some greek word. That was a slightly stronger opener for some of my best laid, because immediately brings the discussion to "where are you from?" and bla bla bla. And there are some school that teach Italian language in Greece. The girls student of Italian language very literally at my feet.
They wanted some piece of the action. They beg for it. They were throwing themselves at me.

After one year, when I came back to Bologna, I dont know why but I went back into my usual AFC routine. Maybe because I didnt had my "strong" openers anymore, maybe because my friend were looking at me weirdly if I made something "out of the line" of my character (or, what they thought it was my character).

Anyway, I also had few dates with that friend of mine I was in love with, and if I look at it now, I would have TOTALLY nailed her. I misinterpreted 3/4 IOI and I missed a Kino Escalation that was on a silver platter. I'm biting my nail right now.

I know, I know. A butload of BS. Bad for you, the story is not over.

I started playing poker online, it was 2006 or something, the game was not so popular, and it was full of fish. FULL of FREAKING FISHES.
So I started grinding 24/7. For the money. Going for the big bucks. And I hit big bucks. I made 200k just from the poker in 4 years. I was studing poker, playing poker, eating poker, drinking poker, and sadly, fucking poker and masturbating poker all day long.
I dont know how I did it, but I finished my degree in electronic engineering, even if I was constantly playing poker for the bucks.
Even when I started to work as an engineer in an italian firm for industrial automation, I played poker after work for 3 hours a day and 8/10 hours a day in the weekends.

All this indoor activities made me SO freaking rusty in the game. I basicly forgot everything I've learn in one year "On The Field" in Greece. I was a SUPER AFC AGAIN. With a very rich bank account, but a freaking AFC.
I didnt play ay sport in 4 years. I went out sporadicaly. There was the poker at home, waiting for me, that guaranteed me around 40$ an hour if played in the right mindset. Why going out if I can get rich?

Then a girl came in my life. A freaking Canadian HB8. I met her on the streets of Bologna. I was an AFC, so basicly my wingman made all the work with her cousin. I just had to go along with it, and once those girls were in my house, I made a kiss close that would have ashamed everyone that is reading this.
Shame on me. Maybe the worse kiss close in the world of PUA.
Mainly, she went to the washroom, and when she came back in the room i forced a kiss grabbing her head.
Anyway, I dont know how, but the kiss close worked.

Then we started some kind of relationship. She traveled a lot, I traveled as well.
It was a freaking long distace shit for the first year. It was not even a "relationship".
I took her virginity in a trip to London. We had sex several times in several cities of Europe and Canada every time we search for each other.

One day, one stupid freaking day, I thought... hey, this is the girl of my life.
I should move to Canada!

So I started applying for job in Canada. I am electronic engineer, and I've been working in industrial automation field for years now. I am not a super genius but the companies are looking forward people like me, above all if they can go to shitty places like steel furnaces plant, refineries, offshore oil platforms, and all the other sh1tty places where there are no women around in miles and miles.

So this bring us to this september 2010.
I moved to Canada, without asking her.
I started dating with this girl.
I started treating her like a freaking princess. What a mistake. What an idiot.
Too many gift, too many romantic stuff. Always agreed with her.
Always compliment her. TOO much good boy.
The sex was great, at least.
But we live apart from each other, 6 hours of car.
So it was a distance relationship anyway.

On the 15th of October she invited me at her house with her parents.
That was the first time I met her parents.
Two days before the "meeting the parents" day, she calls me and this just in "Hey, you know what happened?" and immediately I think she wants to withdrawn the meeting with her parents.
Instead, she said "I had sex with an other guy yesterday night".
Literaly delivered like that. Coldblooded. I couldnt believe it.
I went to meet her parents anyway, but from that day, of course, everything started to fall like a sandcastle in the sand when the see waves closer.
I didnt even wanted to lose her! What an idiot! I was in Canada, alone, lame like a freaking AFC, with only her on my side. So i tried to swallow the bitter mouthful and go on.

It ended up in the worse way possible, with my hearth shattered in a million pieces.
With me actually trying to win her back with gift and stuff and love declarations, in an escalating drama, whith her saying stuff like "I feel the need to have sex with other guys".
Try to win her back, right now I see it like the most ridiculous thing I ever done in my entire life!
She broke up with me on January 1st 2011.
I mean... who get dumped on NEW YEAR DAY??? Well, I know the answer now. Me.

Anyway, if you've read so far, I give you my compliments. That was a butload of personal sh1t.

Let's go to the conclusion.

The guy she cheated on me actually used the following opener with her "I think you've never been fucked by a real man!". At this point, I dont know how to react, but I really think the guy had some of the game inside his card. It is a kind of weak opener, but still. He managed to f-close my girlfriend in one day, two day before I met her parents. So he must have a brilliant midgame after-opener. I mainly got screwed by Mistery Game. Unreal.

On the other side.
Reading stuff about PUA really changed my view of seeing things. I am seeing all the mistakes I've done in the past when approaching and when I didnt kino escalating etcetera etcetera.
I would have slept with ten times more girl by now. I'm not kidding.
I wouldnt have move to Canada only because an HB8 was there for me.
Canada is a nice place anyway. I'm not complaining.

And, above all, I DONT WANT A MERELY HB8.
I DESERVE AN HB10+. This is my goal.
I can deliver an HB10+, starting from today.
The road will be long and I dont know WHERE will I end up in the world, and how.
But I will have my HB10, no matter what.

Even considering that the Canadian HB8 gave me a couple of red flags immediately when we started our relationship. I basicly made out with her the first night when she was in a relationship with an other guy.
And the second time we've seen each other, she was in a relationship with a different guy.
I always thought "I'm different from all the other guy she had. I took her virginity".
Sadly, it was not true. I am just an other guy to cheat on when she find someone with a better game.

Anyway, I want to leave you with this.

Starting today, I'm going to read and apply the PUA rules exactly as when I was in Greece, with the difference that now I can improve MUCH faster with my game.

And I will screw my ex-girlfriend "one" more time, bringing her the BEST freaking game she ever seen.
UNTIL SHE BEGS ME TO COME BACK TO HER and I SHUT HER DOWN LIKE THE BITCH SHE IS.

And then I'm going to start the search for my freaking HB10+

Good luck to me!


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I really start putting myself in a regimen of serious improvement. I did gymnastic for a couple of years (you know, ring, pommel horse, vault, parallel bars, horizontal bar, floor). Then gradually shifted to breakdancing for three years. And for one year private lessons of martial arts (Jeet Kune Do, MMA, Submission Grappling). Then I started Parkour, never really got any far, but still.
I started cooking all kind of recipies, watching weird vintage movies, listening to all kind of '60/'70 prog-rock music and all the sh1t a girl would consider valuable (I thought and I still think on some level). Valuable from a relationship point of view. Not certainly valuable as an approaching point of view.
First of all - here is one very big mistake. You act life you have nothing to offer towards a girl. A girl doesn't need a guy that's pretty much doing everything that she WOULD like. A girl needs a guy that does what HE likes. A guy that KNOWS what HE WANTS and DOES with PASSION that's originating from his own needs & feelings. Not from hers. So why did you do this - did you feel some shortage towards yourself or was it just to spike girls interests?

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After one year, when I came back to Bologna, I dont know why but I went back into my usual AFC routine.
If I may say - you can only blame this on yourself. You went back to the environment of which you wanted to go out of. Hence you felt uncomfortable and went back to old habits. Where is the guy I read about in the previous alinea's? Come on man.. A person doesn't change his habits from one country to another unless you're really in no contact with who you are. Work this out!
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The guy she cheated on me actually used the following opener with her "I think you've never been fucked by a real man!". At this point, I dont know how to react, but I really think the guy had some of the game inside his card. It is a kind of weak opener, but still. He managed to f-close my girlfriend in one day, two day before I met her parents. So he must have a brilliant midgame after-opener. I mainly got screwed by Mistery Game. Unreal.
You didn't got screwed by Mistery game. You got screwed by you and his confidence. Remember you can only learn from things as long as you acknowledge your own faults. He got this girl home because he was confident about himself.. why you were just being general mister nice guy - without any challenges for her. A girl must have challenges. Come on mate. Figure it out - it wasn't his game. It was your lack of game and his confidence in his "game".
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And, above all, I DONT WANT A MERELY HB8.
I DESERVE AN HB10+. This is my goal.
I can deliver an HB10+, starting from today.
The road will be long and I dont know WHERE will I end up in the world, and how.
But I will have my HB10, no matter what.
Good, I'm glad you realise that. Now go get them tiger! Like l'Oreal says it.
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All I'll say is,

Fuck the Past, you learn from it and move on, you're in a great country in Canada and you're Italian, Boom! already you have the advantage of a Accent.

Re-learn your stuff, go out there literally stop giving a fuck about what anyone thinks and win this Game, remember:

"I don't care, it doesn't matter"


Good Luck, Arrivaderchi.

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My "first" # closed happened yesterday.

I went lunch break in a restaurant of a hotel, I really wanted to # close yesterday, it will be meaningless of some kind of "re-birth".
It was super-easy, because I've already seen the girl few times. She works at the desk of a hotel I stayed few days when I first came here.

She gave me two pretty clear IOI and I went into the # close almost immediately after we chit chat a bit about the weather (it was -25 C outside, and she brought the conversation up). She is an HB6, I am collecting her number more for social purposes than for k-close or f-close her.

After work I went at the grocery store, and I really wanted to approach if the situation was good enought. I didnt manage a single approach, part of it because the girl were not really pretty, part of it because of some little AA.

I was going to approach this one HB7, looking at her and moving towards, when I realized she was talking at the phone so I blew it. It would have been weird a re-approach. I also discovered that I am pretty bad approaching with a lie or a made up story. I have to open with something situational.

Anyway, the temperature here is a bitch. Yesterday I was going to go to the gym, and I had an invitation for playing poker with my collegues, but I gave both up because outside is -25 C, and it's really uncomfortable.

Anyway, I really need to escalate in the # close. I have to # close A LOT, otherwise I'm screwed. This city is very cold in the winter and I cant approach on the streets because there are NO people on the streets.

For now, the best game are at the mall, at the grocery store and at the gym. So, I really need to improve my day game.

There is also a Thursday disco party at the hotel/restaurant. I guess I can peacock up and hit some game in a couple of days.
I think I should just prepare 3 or 4 of solid opener (I have a good one already) because after the opener the transition to "I'm Italian" is quite easy and has a lot of DHV (speak an other language, electronic engineer, traveling, adventure).
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I really start putting myself in a regimen of serious improvement. I did gymnastic for a couple of years (you know, ring, pommel horse, vault, parallel bars, horizontal bar, floor). Then gradually shifted to breakdancing for three years. And for one year private lessons of martial arts (Jeet Kune Do, MMA, Submission Grappling). Then I started Parkour, never really got any far, but still.
I started cooking all kind of recipies, watching weird vintage movies, listening to all kind of '60/'70 prog-rock music and all the sh1t a girl would consider valuable (I thought and I still think on some level). Valuable from a relationship point of view. Not certainly valuable as an approaching point of view.
First of all - here is one very big mistake. You act life you have nothing to offer towards a girl. A girl doesn't need a guy that's pretty much doing everything that she WOULD like. A girl needs a guy that does what HE likes. A guy that KNOWS what HE WANTS and DOES with PASSION that's originating from his own needs & feelings. Not from hers. So why did you do this - did you feel some shortage towards yourself or was it just to spike girls interests?
Of course I did all that stuff because I liked them, they made me feel a better man, and they were enjoyable and inspirational.
I just hoped they would also trigger some girl into be interested in me...


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I was going to approach this one HB7, looking at her and moving towards, when I realized she was talking at the phone so I blew it. It would have been weird a re-approach. I also discovered that I am pretty bad approaching with a lie or a made up story. I have to open with something situational.
If thats the case, don't do it, just say hi and be more natural, if you get a chance check out Real Social Dynamics' stuff, it may seem more for you

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damrini,

Thanks for opening up and sharing your story.

I can relate especially to your exchange year. Like you, five years ago I was on the same European exchange programme in one of Europe's oldest and most prestigious universities and in that one year that was the closest to PUA that I had ever been. I was approaching and socializing with HBs of various nationalities left, right and centre. Being foreign I had an instant opener and they would like to learn English from me too. But as all this was too good to be true I was never sure whether any "kino" or potential IOIs were real or if they thought I was gay and I could be the "gay friend", a routine which as we know always works - but only to an extent! Then when I came back home it was back to boring old me and all that good stuff had gone out of the window. But in hindsight I can not help but think if I was more socially skilled five years ago I could have turned those friendships and approaches into genuine lays. But no regrets as it was easily the best and most positive year of my life that opened me up to another world and did some great travelling too.

Personally I have never agreed with the PUA number ranking system myself, I just would refer to a target as an HB simply put. None of this HB7, HB10 stuff. But reading up on PUA in the last two months has put me in a more positive mindset and made me realise I can number close almost any HB that I wish if I try.


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#closed today as well

At the supermarket, opener: asking for a vegetarian receipt. She immediately gave me two IOI (started smiling as soon as I said "a quick question", and took out her sunglasses for eye contact).
I made a mistake and I recognize it immediately, I asked for the phone number TOO soon. I asked it BEFORE the hook.
So she got a little scared I guess and somehow she manage to mention her boyfriend, but I knew exactly what to do and I said something about my girlfriend.

She basicly was looking forward giving me her number.
I think I'm 100% in the LJBF zone, but still count as a #close.

I figured that I have to #close AT LEAST once a day. And at least 3 #close saturdays and sundays. It is very hard because my work basicly does not allow me to stay in places with a lot of women around.

I made a tour in the university zone. OMFG.
I HAVE to go to luch break there. EVERY DAY.
I also went downtown. A bogus.
University zone will be my FIELD.

Mothers, lock up your daughters.
Doughters, lock up your MILFC. (Mother I Like To Fuck Close)

The fakking italian is here!


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WOW

One thing I've done on the last #close, and I realize it only now... It came spontaneous so I think someone more expert already apply this kind of advice...

When you're asking for her number it is kinda of a weird moment, when she think something like "why should I give him my number! I just met him 10 minutes ago!".

So you want to drive her attention away from that thought, what do you do?

1) you dont ask for her number, you suggest it. It's not a question. It is a conditional sentence. "If you give me your number we can see again" or something like that. Absolutely NO QUESTION MARKS.

2) you give her your phone and say "ok dial your number" and then START SAYING the first three digit of the area code! Like "So, 375?" (it doesnt matter if you guess it correctly or not).
In this way she will stop thinking about "wait a minute, am I giving my number to a complete stranger?", and instead she will start thinking "oh yeah, 375, what's my number? oh, 456789".
In this way she is ALREADY thinking about her number, her brain is "occupied" and the awkward moment fades away!


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OMG

I just came up with a FUCKING perfect opener!

Again, I am pretty new to this, so most probably it is already being used by the professionals...

I will start doing it from tomorrow, so I will tell you how it goes!!!

This of course apply to day game, like supermarket, coffee shops etc

Let's say you want to start with an opinion opener. Most guy just blatantly go to the girl and spit out with the question opener. She can get scared, even if you're perfectly polite and stuff.

So what you do is go in, and say "excuse me, may I ask you a quick question?" then you grab the phone like someone called you or messaged you, and you have a super quick conversation like "yes, yes, I'm coming in 5 minutes!".
At the same time you engage the girl in a position that kinda of lock her (like you have yor hand raised signalling her to wait, and you give her a look like "please dont leave right now).

This is a REALLY REALLY powerful False Time Constraint.
The girl will NOT be scared to talk to you at all!
Because

1) you dont give a fuck about her, you have other things in your mind
2) whatever you're going to say it will last ONLY 5 minutes or so
3) she will be curious about "what the hell this guy is going to say to me? Is it important?"

than you go with a situational opinion opener.
Like: "I have to cook a vegetarian meal for my friend, what do you suggest?"

ALSO, it is more attractive from the AA point of view!
If the girl is a fucking bitch, se will just walk away like the fucking bitch she is.
So it takes away the rejection part, and it does not mess up your inner game!
She just walked away because you were talking at the phone.

You GIVE her the chance to refuse you, but in the same time you built up curiosity and comfort with the FTC and the unasked-question!

OMG I'm two days in the game and I'm already getting good at it!


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I am having second thought...

NOT about PUA of course, but about writing something like a journal out here.
Too many personal information in my first post.
This might be dangerous in the long run. I dont live in a huge city.
So I tried to modify the post, deleting some of the info, but it says I can't. I only have 500 min to modify a post... WTF?

I am really thinking about deleting it, that's the only option...

Or I can just subscribe again with an other nick and leave the post there, knowing that will be lost in the thousands of posts in the archives...


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I am a daygamer, mostly because my city is a bogus during the night.

I find very easy approaching a girl in a supermarket opening with asking for receipt. Girls usually love cooking and take interest in a guy that is "learning".
That would be something like "hey, do you know if I have to put meat in the lasagna?"... bla bla bla... I dont have problem with middle game.

On the streets downtown I usually ask for directions for fashion shop or something. "Where can I find a tailor around here", or "Where I can find a shop that sells nice parfumes and candles". Girls love this kind of stuff.

An other place where I am in doubt if I want to sarge is the gym.
People usually dont want to get bothered with questions when they're exercising or training. So I haven't find a good opener for the gym.
On the other side, a girl in the gym has usually very few "bitch shield" in the gym, because she's sweating, she smells bad, she's doesnt have nice clothes or makeups, and she wouldnt think of someone picking her up in that conditions, so she might be more willing to talk.

Recently I found a place at the University, where they usually have saturday parties. So I will be sarging there too. Last time I went there at midnight only to discover that the party was over in an hour! They started at 8pm! LOL what kind of party starts at 8pm??? Anyway, the concentration of pussies was abnormal, there were two pussies for every dude. And I could see the dudes had NO GAME. There were only like 50 people there, and I tried to open a 1-set, but she flashed me "I am waiting for my ride" and she looked away. After 30 min there were only 20 people there and I left.

Today I'm going to the Toastmaster club dowtown.
Let's see how it will play it out...


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