Hi

Im kind of looking for some advice on how to use Kino with a girl who I have met a good few times yet I have never used Kino on before. I dont want to fall in to the LJBF so I want to escalate our relationship and think this would be the best way of going about it.

I mean if I had used it from the first time we met she would associate it with my natural behaviour.
Am I too late for kino now? I wouldnt know how to introduce it without it freaking her out or her thinking what is he doing. I guess I need to start of small, infrequent and subtle and introduce it more and more over time?

Its usually quite hard to initiate any with her anyway becuase she is always with her friends. Trying to isolate her is really hard. Next time an oppurtunity arrises though I want to be able to apply some kino.

Does anyone have any advice.

Thanks greatly.

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If you cannot isolate her I do not see the point you for you to kino escalate towards anything, unless you expect her to make out with you right in front of her friend.

So you either ask her out on a proper date then kino with holding hand and kissing and stuff

Or if you cannot get her out and still wanna kino, which if you kino too hard she will freak out that you wanna rape her, too little then she will think you just accidentally touch her, you can grab her arm (elbow not her hand) when you cross the street or something along that line. I suggest you look at her picture and find out where you can touch her without triggering anything other than attraction.

Cheers

kino doesnt always have to lead to a kiss close? haha just start with simple kino touch her arm while you talk when you walk past her put your hand on her back kinda like your pushing her but your really not, those little things are still small kinos. and once that starts becoming natural for your relationship then making you can escalate or make it even more comfortable on a date

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Thanks for the replies guys.

And yeah Im not looking to Kiss close her just yet. Just want to start using kino to escalate so she can associate it with me and then start to escalate more sexually.

I should kino the whole group right so it seems natural not just her? Because usually when I see her she's always with her friend.

Thanks

hmm at first I guess that would be good since your kinda starting to kino late. But once you see that everyone is comfortable with you kino-ing then start to solely use it on her.

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What do you see her? At school? Work? Gym? Depending on where you see her will determine what kind of kino to use.

Thanks guys

Umm Shes in my Uni but I hardly ever see her there. It's mostly on nights out or in the evenings. But it's really hard to isolate her or to ask her to meet up on her own.

I do have oppurtunities to use Kino though. Just looking for the advice on how to initiate it without her thinking whats up due to me not using it on her before.

Thanks

hmm I think the trick is to make her not realize that you are actually tring to touch her.
try expressing what you are saying with body language, throw gestures arround a lot, and use your hands to convey what you are telling her. If you do this often, it should appear as something you naturally do, afterwhich it is easy to start touching her shoulder while talking, and touch her arms when she is talking because you seem tl always keep your arms bend and her arm is thus a natural place for your hands to go to.

maybe you should try to start it off like this, when she is comfortable with you touching her shoulders arms and hips for instance, you should make it more sensual, just make sure not to much time passes; the longer you are in the 'friend zone' the harder it gets to get out

Thanks Willah. Thats what I was looking for. Sort of going under her radar for her not to realise I am using kino straight away as I havent used it before on her. More natural.

I guess I am starting to fall in to the friend zone so will deffo start using some kino next time i see her to try and steer away. I dont see her that often so I guess thats a sort of help in her not associating me as a 'friend' but dunno for how long.....Need to start escalating soon!!

Thanks

I think I might be able to offer a little advice, I knew my ex gf for 2 years before asking her out. I remember exactly how I introduced kino. We were talking at a house party on a sofa side by side, and got into deep comfort and rapport. I was slowly taking the conversation down a "romantic" route. I made discrete kino by just brushing my knee past hers when we were sat down, more of a compliance test. Then commented on her hair and touched it with the back of my hand making sure my hand just glided against the cheek of her face. We got talking about hands for some reason! I said look how big my hands are compared to yours and we measured them up to each other, our finger tips were touching and it was quite sensual, I made deep eye contact when saying it and then we interlocked fingers. Its gotta be smooth escalation, start off on a micro scale. Kino > Check for compliance > Rapport > Advance, continue this cycle (do not go overboard tho). You gotta be in a situation where deep rapport is building up. If you couple deep rapport and sexual tension she will MELT.

Hey this is probably the absolute best game I know for light and easy kino.

You simply go up to the girl you know and lightly tap her under the chin and say "pap". If she has never played before she will probalbly say "what?" and then you explain "Omg, you've never played the pap game? Come with me I'll teach you." then proceed to walk around the party and pap the people around you.

You defend your own chin by keeping an open hand under your chin. Make sure the girl is doing this with you when you're walking around the party. Eventually everyone will be walking around with their hands underneath their chin! It is quite hilarious. I actually learned this game from one of my pivots who used this on me the first week of school.


Have Fun,

Saroza

That is a great idea,

Also I would suggest doing something you have never done when talking to her then, if she does not associate you touching her when you normally talk to her then do soemthing different.

Flirt a little, tease her, small neg, comfort her if she is upset etc etc. An example would be if you teased her and as she laughed you slightly pushed her as you do when your tease and flirt

Good luck

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Ignore her for a month while you hit the weights HARD and work on getting some cash. Do a makeover with your wardrobe.

Then talk to her after a month, with new found confidence.

That's what I would do.