Hi guys first of soz if this in the wrong category great forum by the way I just stumbled across it today

Anyway I need some advice, ever week I head down to my local club its fairly big good mix of hbs now I go down primarily to dance. Not with the intention of picking up girls! now I consider myself to be ugly I’ve never held the way I look in high regard don’t get me wrong though I make an effort and dress above average I think I like cloths and so on anyway. I get down to the club and may I add don’t drink when I’m out and I always fly solo I’m the first on the floor dancing just enjoying myself I’m a good dancer, now I seem to get a mega amount of IOI from girls watching in fact after a few minutes there all on the floor shaking there ass around me, they even come up and introduce themselves "hi my name is "so and so" smile and then they will walk off and there in lies my first question why do they do this ? Secondly when a guy try’s to hit on them they will point and say I’m with him when there not? Thirdly now this involves the regulars girl that will repeatedly come up say hi even a little touch or hug then walk off. Anyway I just what your thoughts on this I seem to have built up some kind of reputation! in the club guys come up to me and ask if they can dance with my gf, often just a bird near me or they will ask how come I draw so much attention. I didn’t even realise I did really, I always thought it was kind of sad to hang around alone I see guys just sitting looking fed up, could u shed some light on this and give me some advice on how should I proceed next week thanks !!

Are you dancing with any girls who come up to you and are dancing to you?
If not and they know you! (note the >know you< part) just put your arm around their waste (or lower back) and dance with them. You need to do this because out of your story I see that you are doing pretty well but they just see you as a friend.

If they don't know you start slower take their hand, and slowly escalate, if you don't know her don't grab her. Then you'll just be ''that creepy guy who grabs them all of a sudden''

they dont know me. sometimes i dance with them somtimes i just ignor them, there are the few that practically force themselves on me im not a guy that allways feel great in my own skin to do that, and i know girls dont like just being groped!!
i dont see as they just wanna be friends because why would they come so uncoftabley close all the time and i catch them watchin me when im walking around the club.

My friend it sounds like you have a gold mine around you!! A lot of things on this forum could make your situation productive.

About grabbing/groping girls; try and find some lower intensity kino(touching) like grabbing her hand.

I wouldn't take that "i'm with him" crap. These girls are just using you to get out of a jam.

Good Luck.


-d

Another thing to ''Just grabbing a woman'' is that on the dance floor you go into her world (that is if she fully accepts it), turning yourself into a prop for her to dance with, instead pull her into yours by taking her hand and building her a house in your world.

When they are shaking their ass around you, it's their invitation for you to pull them to you and have them dance WITH you. When they introduce themselves, it doesn't get much more open than that from a girl. What do you do? PROCEED with them. Dance, kino, TALK.

And yes, if they say they are with you to some guy, they are using you. Don't let them, UNLESS you get something in return. If they touch or hug you and walk off, tell them they owe you. If they say for what? You say for all the times they've touched you.

Man, if a guy is a great dancer, that is your opener and initial attraction and kino builder right there. Once the girl has danced with you, you can isolate her.

its all very well for you guys to say dance kino chat but thats easyer said then done theres allways somthing holding me bk

What's holding you back? Your fear of rejection? That's all I can think of. If there's an AMOG or she has friends pulling her away, YOU can do something about both of those. So, it's just your fear of rejection, and my friend, the ONLY way you will get over that is to just DO IT. Crash and burn a few times and move on. You'll see that you still have opporuntiy out there. I really doubt you will crash and burn much if the girls are giving you THAT much of an open invitation though. Unless you are just completely boring or something when you isolate them.

Yeah pete, it really starts with you. If you don't feel like an alpha it is hard to imagine others would see you that way. Take control of yourself first then use the help in this forum to mainpulate the social scene however you feel. Crash&burn is the best way to conquer rejection besides there are 30 girls out there for the one that just blew you off. Their loss, don't be a doormat and for god sakes good luck man!

-d

thanks for the advice but its not that im Scared of rejection infact i feel like smokes coming out my ass with all the girl in the club checking me out its just when it comes down to it i dont feel good enough for any of them even if somwhere i know thats bullshit if you get what i mean i know it sounds a bit contradictory