Ok guys, I need some help with this HB9. Seems like she's following all the PUA rules herself so it's been hard to read her. She knows she is a HB9 and even mentioned "I used to be shy but then after college, guys started paying attention to me so I don't have problems getting hit on by guys". I think she craves attention and really enjoys getting attention from guys.

I'm not sure how to read her interest in me. She never initiates any calls or text, but will usually return my calls or text and banter with me for a bit. I tried to neg her but she always comes back strong and negs me back. She's always the first to end the text convo after 4-5 exchanges, and she ends phone calls quickly after 5 minutes. So I haven't really had a chance to build good rapport since the exchanges are short and we had 2 short Sunday dates that ended early. I feel like I'm doing all the work in these past 4 weeks.

Here's the timeline:
- I meet her at a mixer and we connect a bit. I get her email at the end of the night.

- I wait 2 days and email her for coffee. She accepts. I also add her on FB and she accepts instantaneously and even FB messages me "wow, didn't know you were in a band. you seem busy with all your hobbies". She obviously went through my FB profile and saw my DHV photos from my bands & racing activities.

- We get coffee a few days later (Thursday). The convo is good, but I made the mistake of extending it too long. After 2 hrs of coffee, she ends the date. However, I do get her number before she leaves.

- I don't initiate any contact that weekend but call her on Monday. She doesn't pickup but calls back next day. I invite her to hang out and she says sure but Sunday is her only availability.

- On Friday New Year's eve at midnight, she text me "Happy NY". I reply with a similar text but got no response from her.

- On Sunday, we hit a bocce ball joint and grab some food too. Convo is good during dinner, we're playful at bocce ball, but at around 9:30pm, she says "I got got sleepy for a moment there.". I wasn't sure if she got bored, and the bocce place closes early on Sunday night, so at 9:30pm I drive her home and give her a hug (moment wasn't right to kiss her). Later that night, she texts me "thank you for dinner & game". I try to continue the dialog and flirt over text, but she ends the text chat first 4-5 short exchanges.

- I wait 2 days, call her again to hang out the following weekend. She says yes but chooses Sunday night again.

- On Sunday, we go to dinner, then hit a dessert place. Dinner convo is great but afterwards at the dessert cafe, these two older 60-something Italian guys at the table next to ours start to chat her up and she reciprocated with friendly convo with them while ignoring me for a bit. (she is 31 btw). She did turn her attention back to me a few times but each time the Italian farts would tap her on the shoulder and she would turn her attention back to them. After 20 min, she says "ok, it's late now, I should go home". Since she gave that hint, I drove her home, gave a hug, and that was it. Later that night she texts me again "thank you for the delicious dinner".

- During that dinner, I mentioned that I was going to Vegas the following weekend (I was trying to demonstrate that I had a life...)

- 2 days later, she text me and says "let me know if you need a ride to the airport for ur vegas trip". I was surprised she initiated, so I try to flirt with her over text. I text "ah, nice innocent girl is gonna drop me off before my trip to sin city". She comes back strong with "wait, u are right, I am too innocent for that. i take back my offer. have a good trip to vegas and stay out of trouble".

- I don't contact her the rest of week, drive myself to the airport and head to vegas. This past Friday night, I text her from Vegas "saw a few belly dancers walking by!". This was an inside joke because she also belly dances for fun. She text back "were they hot?", to which I reply "yeah, 2 hotties and 1 ok belly". Then she texts "are they hotter than me?", to which I reply "depends if u are into middle eastern bellies or asian bellies" (she is Asian). She replies "good answer...have a good time in vegas" and that was the end of the text convo.

So, it's been 3 days now and no further contact from her or from me. She seemed to demonstrate IOI towards me at the beginning, but now we interact only when I initiate a call or text. Also, that incident at the dessert place with the 2 Italian guys really annoyed me. I think I'll going to go dark/freeze for this week to see if she initiates first.

Thoughts?

It seems to me that you're falling into the friendzone..

I dont read anything about you using alot of kino to escalate things.. Dude.. you need to be the man.. CAVEMAN it.

As for freezing her out.. That wouldnt help anything, its not like you've been leaving her on a high-note ?

Call her up, and say she should tag along for something fun. Or even.. (I saw this on another thread) Write her, and say you have a surprice for her, and she should come over sooner than later.

If she comes over quick, give her a flower, if she waits couple of days, give her a dead flower. That will give her the idea, that she shouldnt just take all the time she needs!

And.. Try get the topic into something sexual when you write her perhaps?

Best of luck mate

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Is this indirect game or direct?

Either way, you need to make a move soon. You should aim to at least have fucked them by the third date, you haven't even kissed her yet. Every guy she is with will be waiting around, taking her to dinner, going on loads of dates and not doing anything about it because they're intimidated by her beauty... You need to sort it out mate.

Don't do the freeze out thing, it won't make her want you more. She'll shag another guy who isn't fucking about and that will be game over for you... Be direct, go for it and get laid.

Exactly.

Remember:

- Be the guy she wants to fuck FIRST
- THEN you can be the guy she wants to date

"Taking things slow"
"She's not 'that kind' of girl"
"She's 'relationship material'"
etc. is BULLSHIT

It just LOOKS like you're too pussy to escalate, regardless of your intentions.

A girl who you DO escalate on and rejects you will RESPECT you more and think of it as a COMPLIMENT.

A girl who you DON'T escalate on after a few dates will wonder WTF is wrong with her / you (check out the long "Half-hearted approach to dating" thread by Cindy1980 if you don't believe me) and the longer you do nothing, the more likely you are to be friendzoned.

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Thanks for the feedback guys. It totally makes sense.

I'll reach out to her tonight. Problem is she might be going out of town this weekend, so I'll have to prepare to respond either way, depending if she is in town or out of town.

I'm not intimidated by her beauty and would have escalated more if she hadn't ended our dates early. Both dates started out with good convo, alternating between jokes, negs, and normal topics.

But then after a few hours together and once we hit 9pm, she'll hint at ending the night by saying things like "I'm getting tired, let's go" or "thanks for the nice evening". So, it's just hard to read/gauge her interest when she throws those comments out, plus her not initiating anything.

Anyhow, I'll hit her up tonight and report back. Thanks again for the help.

So I text'd her tonight. She was engaging and we banter over text for a bit.

Her: how was vegas? did u get into trouble?
Me: no comment are u going to vegas this weekend?
Her: no, not this weekend. no comment? u were probably too drunk to remember
Me: I couldn't see...it was too dark. want to hang out this weekend? I'll tell u a story
Her: R u free on Thurs? we can get dinner. Maybe Fri but group of friends are thinking about heading up to the mountain to snowboard for long weekend.
Me: dinner sounds good. I got plans on Thurs but free on Fri. Lemme know.
Her: k. let's touch base later in the week. have a good night.
Me: cool, gnite.

So, this is her usual behavior again. When I initiate contact, she will respond and banter/flirt with me. When I ask for a date, she will say yes, but doesn't give up Fri or Sat. I actually already have plans for Thurs, and even though I could cancel those plans so I could hang out with her on Thurs, I didn't want to make myself too available. Plus, I want a weekend night so that I can have more time and better opportunity to escalate.

So, I guess the balls in her court to get back to me about Fri night. If she goes snowboarding for the weekend, then I won't see her this weekend and will have to try again next week.

It also bugs me that she always ends the text convo quickly, usually with a "...have a good nite" to end the exchange. Thoughts on tonight's development?

So then ask her out during the WEEK!

I never ask a girl to give up her weekend for a date until like the 3rd 4th time we have sex. She has friends of her own and her own life and so do I. A date during the week is much lower pressure than giving up your whole Saturday night for a drink and dinner or something that could end up being shitty.

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