so i walked into class the other day trying to be early rather than usually being late, i was 10 minutes early and theres some nerd and this girl in my class, both sitting opposite sides of the room, so i sit a chair away from the girl in the same first row and she asked me about the previous test we had since she missed it, i gave her the review notes on it and the answers to the review and at the end of class i asked her if she needed to borrow it, she said "kinda, but if you want it back ill give it back to you" and i told her she could borrow and asked "are you sure you not gonna forget to bring it next week?" she replied "why, are you gonna cry if i don't?", i gave her like an evil type smile and replied "i was just checkin to see if you were gonna bring back, its no big deal" and smiled and i just started to walk out and at the last minute she "bye", i completely even forgot to say anything about leaving like a FTC or something of that sort so i just replied "bye" and left, what do i do next time i see her? i mean, i know she likes me, its obvious, but how do i approach this situation without screwing it up, since i ALWAYS screw up every opportunity i get, and im getting annoying as i am making pretty much no progress in the game, can anyone help me out and offer me some advice?

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"if you're going through hell, keep going through it, it's the only way to get out" - winston churchill

make it seem, when she gives back the notes, like she now owes you something. say that where you come from, a favor never goes unrewarded or somethin like that and make her take you out for coffee, or say next time you have to earn it, something along those lines. or just be friendly, tell her your name and that if she ever needs anything to come find you. that will leave her mind lingering on you for a bit, which is always good.

good luck bro.

Sorry man, but your game on this girl is pretty much shot. You gave in to her w/o having her jump through ANY hoops. Bad, bad, bad. Now, you've ALREADY given her the power. You could try PrettyBoy's suggestion, but I doubt it will work. You've already surrendered your power to her and it will be next to impossible, if not impossible to get it back. You say it's obvious that she likes you? Nope. Not obvious that she likes you the way you want her to. It's obvious that she sees that she can get what she wants from you man.

LA trip does make a good point.....you should try starting off with a girl on the right tone so it sets the tone for the entire relationship.

hes right on that, but i don't think the chance is completely over. she doesn't know you, spare a small conversation, so you still have a chance to develop your identity to her, and this time you better show what you want her to see, not some easy chump.

basically this next encounter act cocky funny, make cocky funny comments but make sure you don't show too much interest. basically now that you MIGHT have shown a chump side to her (according to latrip) you want to DHV by acting in a "i dont give a shit" way.


hope this helps, good luck with the chick later bro

well, the first move was AFC, dont let her borrow the notes, or not just then... say i need them tonight, but come by my place, or if you arent old enough to have a place, say meet me after school. but the first post was a good idea. say, since i let you borrow my notes, why dont we go to (whatever meal you like, coffee, etc..) your treat? and from then on of course you would have to pay for the meals.

I dont agree LA, he's not that far in the hole. . . he can recover from this fairly easily. . . just gotta remember to neg her a bit the next time you talk. Prettyboy makes a good point about making her wonder, tell her something intriguing and dont finish. I might have to miss such and such class, gotta go outta town . . .its a last minute thing. . . .of course you gotta find a way to blend it into convo but should be hard since she's a schoolmate.

i say you should get with her outside the school either using the now you owe me thing or just talk to her se what you guys have in common and just try to spin it from there
you said she is new right? so you can DHV by taking her around introducing her to a lot of your friends, showing that you have social value, you can even get a wing man and ask him that when you come to meet him with her he should DHV you too in some way... whatever works
good luck

this is a tough situation here man,

I agree with both prettyboy (for the most part) and L.A. Tripp... When she asked you for the notes, thats when you should have negged her.

"You missed the review notes session? Dang, you rebel... you must think you're a badass." Smile, of course since it's a harmless neg.

or even better...

"You're asking me for my notes? Well hold on just a second here miss, we just met! I don't even know your name!" again, smile in a joking manner; you can even add in something along the lines of "are you one of those girls that does this in your other classes too?



Either way, I think you're stuck at a fork in the road, uncomfortably close to the LJBF zone. and this is where I'll have to disagree with prettyboy's idea.

Don't tell her if she needs anything to come find you, you're just setting yourself up to be used like a tool man, YOU are better than that. I would definately tell her next time she sees you that she owes you a big favor now, because you don't simply just give your notes to anybody, she should be lucky her good looks covered for her THIS time.

It's a learning experience, and I remember when I was in your shoes. I always thought being the nice guy is what would take me where I wanted to go with women, WRONG. If you show your vulnerability to anyone, man, woman... your boss at work, or your sports coach... then they are just going to stomp on you like an empty beercan. Natural Selection at it's finest.


You can do it man, just neg her when she's giving you the notes back, be cocky and funny too, that's always money.

good luck,
CLz

wow guys, i really appreciate all the support and the opinions and comments, i was thinking of making her take me out for a cup of coffee after class since i gave her something valuable, i was gonna play it off like i dont usually let people borrow things but you seemed like a nice girl so you got lucky i let you borrow the notes, usually generosity works both ways with my friends so lets go to (some near by spot with coffee) and we'll get a cup and i'd like to find out if theres more to you than meets the eye, you just might be interesting enough for me to hang out with, you buy coffee today and maybe i'll take you out tomorow for a cup as well, let's go... you guys think somethign like that would work on her? she seemed innocent but all chicks do, its a good cover up for first impressions, i wanted to make her feel like letting people that haven't introduced themselves to me aren't the ones i usually let borrow things but you had a genuine nice smile so i took the chance of being nice, lets see how nice you are, lets go grab a cup of joe down the street and see what happens from there

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"if you're going through hell, keep going through it, it's the only way to get out" - winston churchill

That's got promise, but I think something simpler would work better like:

"What do you have going for you besides your looks? Buy me a cup of coffee down the street and let's find out."

At that point, while you're talking, you could go into the explanation that you don't let people borrow things most of the time.

Tripp has a good point here,

by telling her "what else do you have to provide besides your -somewhat- alright looks?" You're breaking the girl, lowering her defenses and thats what you need to do to get the upperhand here.

Don't be afraid to be cocky either, there's no reason to come off nice if she hasn't earned it yet. Besides, you've got more than enough warrant to be peeved at her at this point for taking something of yours when you didn't have to. Like I said before, don't automatically come off as nice, or needy, that's grounds for DLV, a step in the wrong direction.


and never forget one thing.
don't be the man who puts pussy on a pedistal. It's a learning experience, if you find yourself to deep in a hole of shit, then quit digging, hop out and brush it off, it's only practice.

CLz

CrazyLegs has great additions to my post. Take heed to them.

And, that's the main problem of all AFC's, I think anyway, is that they ALWAYS put pussy on a pedestool. It's like pussy is the holy grail or something. Pussy is THE goal of life.

Believe it or not, there IS bad pussy out there, lol. If you can't get one pussy because you fucked up, you might not have wanted it anyway, lol.

There's this WILD, HOT girl that frequents one of my clubs. She IS desired by every guy in there. I have her name and number and have talked to her a few times. I love the wildness of her in bed, but I DON'T want that pussy personally. And this girl is a 10. Unless you're one of those guys that says there are no 10's, then she's a 9 easily, lol. She vies for "hotness" with my wife, she's so far up there.

So guys, a girl is a girl. They are human just like you and me.

Ok I have a question for you and everyone else, how did you take when she said, "why, are you gonna cry if i don't?" I would of taken that as a IOD from her or anyone that would say that to me in that situation is it an IOI or an IOD?

bitch shield. that's how you take it. shit test. diffuse it.

totally a shit test man, at that point I would have said something along the lines of

"Really? you think I would cry? Well let me tell you something champ, when it comes to my emotions I've got an iron wall surrounding them... you've got some nerve trying to penetrate that wall... and you don't even have a magnet with you."

and if she says something such as "magnet? what's that have to do with anything....?" politely tell her that magnets only stick to iron and no other metal, then give her a look of (wtf is this chick for real?)

then just laugh it off, because you dominated that shit test.