If girls found out that you (ya specifically you) talked about openers and shit they would think you are ridiculous.. game isn't a technical thing is a god damn lifestyle and skill that you acquire.. In my opinion practice makes perfect. The more mistakes you make with girls the more you learn what to do and not to do.. All this code words and shit takes away from you actually interacting with girls.

Look in the mirror and tell yourself you are a pimp and you can get girls. A guy in my fraternity was a band nerd.. anti pussy mag.. now he's pullin decent girls. Why? cuz he grew a sack and decided he wasn't going to be afraid of girls.. so you can do all the prep.. learn the lingo.. learn good openers.. but what it comes down to is being a damn man.

who disagrees?

And yet, here you are. So, HOW does one "be a man," my friend? Don't use any technical phrases or examples you'd find here. You're just going to end up saying really general things. Everybody posts one of these threads, "Stop reading this shit and just be CONFIDENT." Then they figure out they don't even know how to be confident, they don't even know how a man is different than a teenager.

Most everything here is HOW to handle situations "like a man" and having a specific vocabulary makes it easier to discuss specific challenges. My balls dropped a long time ago. It didn't make me a man.

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The advice given on this forum is meant to be taken with a grain of salt. The terms and all that is just a way to get people to START practicing. Once you start practicing you get better and you realise that you never needed the lines and routines anyway.

Stop taking it so seriously, it's there to help people who are less intuitive than most.

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Then why did you make this post if all the noobs are just going to figure it out anyway? Everybody knows there's no substitute for experience. Not a single person on here is saying otherwise. You're just preaching to the choir. Anyway, welcome to the community, what's your name about? I hope it's not about thinking there's a bulletproof way to pickup that never fails and never requires risk.

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You need to know how to make wine before you cane make your own wine brand. Some of us are not naturals or confident enough when it comes to girls so forums like this are a great place to learn how to be a man. As soon as we get better we will realise that most of these terms mean nothing that will be the time we grow a sack and do our thing. Anyway welcome to the forum man!

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There are two types of guys. YES, only two. Those that are great with women, and those who are not. Those who are great, greta for them, they have it a lot fucking easier than the rest of us and basically, they don't need this But the other group of guys, those who are not great with women, theyhave to learn to be great and that is the purpose of the community.

You are right. You are absolutely right, picking up women only requires confidence and absolute trust in yourself. But that's not what most of us here have. If that's what you're naturally born with, that's great cause you had a great and resourceful upbringing.

The rest fo the poeple however, have to learn the openers, the routines, the lines, to build up that confidence and to create that trust with ourselves until one day, we realize that we have complete and utter trust and confidence and become 'naturals' and this community is guiding us there one step at a time.

Being good with women has its drawbacks, too, you know. Not that I was ever very good, but when women are constantly going in and out of your life, it's really hard to appreciate what you have when in the forefront of your mind you're wondering what's next. One thing AFC's do right is appreciate what they have. Sometimes they just appreciate too much. Too much sex gives you a numb dick anyway, who wants that?

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To the OP, yes, the stupid jargon and general "community" terms and ways of being can turn you weird.

However, if you don't know anything and you're currently not achieving success with women, then just telling a guy to be confident doesn't really help. You have to learn HOW to be confident in your words, actions, bodylanguage, etc. and that takes time.

If you walk into a club and confidently approach the first 10 you see and say, in the most confident way possible, with great bodylanguage "hey, can I buy you a drink." Then pay for it in the most alpha way you can, and then, with the most seductive voice tonality imaginable say "so, what do you do?" you probably won't be getting laid.

You still have to learn GAME, which means "different shit to say and do instead of what 99% of guys say and do that is boring and doesn't make women respond favourably."

And a lot of people who learn game, use shortcuts to talk about it, so they can say "the guy AMOGed me" instead of "the man who was generally the leader of the group and acting in a very alpha-male way, used cutting satire, jibes and aggressive body language to best me in a battle of words that left me unable to continue my interaction with the young lady I was pursuing at that moment."

Knowing the terms doesn't automatically make you skilled. You still have to go out there and practice in-field. But to say that because the terms are essentially arbitrary and random means that the SUBSTANCE of what game is about is essentially meaningless is total rubbish.

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dude well played in creating a discussion seriously *applause*

but i really have to disagree with the way your going about your argument, you see your whole just be a man thing.....well thats just natural game isnt it....and im sure if you scroll down the page you will find a section all about it lol......also maybe some people arent just naturals.....people like me who totally sucked around women, but who after reading the information on here and in other sources i found a method that works for me.....it might not be perfect and it might need some more work but i never would have gotten anywhere without the advice and the information available through places like this......

so dude quit YOUR complaining and seriously.........MAN UP


Carl

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He's not really complaining, he's just trying to save some souls. Some people do take this shit too seriously and end up throwing away their identity in the hopes of having a lot of sex. It's just sex, get over it.

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man you just made him sound like some sort of super hero, and tbh it isnt all about the sex mate. Some people go through game just to learn to be more social or to get themselves out of the house, some people go through just to try and find "the one" and therefore "beat the game" but i will admit there are others who decide to lie to themselves just to get a lot of sex......it just depends on the type of man you are i suppose

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I guess... I didn't so much as pay him a compliment. We've all railed against the community at some point and then just came back and decided to ignore the bullshit parts of it. The OP wasn't even really being rude, he just wanted people to listen. I also said sex didn't matter. Maybe you were talking to someone else.

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you know, i just realised i agree with you. you were correct in what you said. i cant argue against it tbh

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Fucking funny.lol

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