Is it enough to have great inner game w/o much outer game?



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I am just curious to know if you feel it's enough to have only great inner game and not much outer game?
it will be enough for the person because their inner game is so strong that they should feel satisfaction regardless of other factors

from an outside observer's point of view this person might just be a happy person who is actualyl not successful with women at all

it all depends on the point of view

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With regards to females, one doesn't have inner without the outer. If someone does, it's likely the result a psychological disorder related to delusions. Without experiences that outer game brings, you can't have the inner game people want.
It's this "likely psychological disorder" that has been responsible for most of the greatest innovators, leaders and most successful people in the world.

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Create your own reality, live your own reality, your perception of life is in fact the only perception that matters in regards to yourself.

Outlandish unabashed self confident certainty... Thats how greatness is achieved.

If yo want to be one of the average masses, then listen to what the average masses deem as possible, rational or prudent. Or conversely you can ignore them, believe what they would never believe, try what they would never try and be what they will never be...

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Generally speaking though, outer game gets you to a point where you can talk to girls. Inner game gets you to a point where you feel comfortable doing it.

Also.

You could say outer game = confidence
Inner game = competant

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you could also say your outer game is only an expression of your inner game.

its why even though people use the same lines as the mpua's but dont get as far.

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I don't believe a strong inner game will last without decent outer game.

You could be the most confident guy in the world. However, if your appearance and social skills suck, people will treat you like someone as such. This will lead to repeated failure, which will lead to weakening of your inner game.

I'll bet a lot of guys never had inner game issues until they tried to pick up girls, then realized how terrible thier outer game was.


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If you just in it to have one night stands then go outer game. If your all about LTR's and personal developement go inner game. That's the way i see it


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How do u think naturals do it? they dont know about MM or Cocky Funny or anything.

but their mind is in a place where the type of behavior that works is normal for them..
Naturals know about teasing, which essentially is the same thing as cocky funny (and kino).


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IMHO, inner game can either come from 2 ways:

1) You have it as part of your personality, which means you don't know lines or tricks, you're just being yourself.

2) You practiced outer game so much that you have unconscious competence, which means you don't think anymore you just do, just like when you walk, you don't think "I'm gonna move my leg now".

That being said. Inner game is how you view yourself in the world. Outer game is how you project yourself in the world.

One can exist without the other but you'll fail at some point if they aren't congruent.

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u need inner game AND experience. Practicing outer game gives you that.

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Generally speaking though, outer game gets you to a point where you can talk to girls. Inner game gets you to a point where you feel comfortable doing it.

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Inner game is how you view yourself in the world. Outer game is how you project yourself in the world.

One can exist without the other but you'll fail at some point if they aren't congruent.
I guess these few sentences explain it all. It took me some infield analysis over the last few days to realize the truth in what has been quoted above. +1 rep to both.

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This is how I see inner game vs outer game

Inner is how you see your self, attitude, confidence, self esteem, self worth, values, beliefs..

Out game is how others see , hear and view you. Think of body language. voice, story telling, humor, all the things that make your outside appearance.

Term inner game.. and out game.. game referring to skill


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I think having a strong inner game will be more beneficial in all aspects of your life than just outer game will. I think with some inner game, the outer game comes much easier. I've been working on mostly inner game for the time being and since then the outer game has been coming naturally. I don't have to anticipate what she may say I just try to let it flow. If she rejects you, who cares? She's the one who is missing out!

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With regards to females, one doesn't have inner without the outer. If someone does, it's likely the result a psychological disorder related to delusions. Without experiences that outer game brings, you can't have the inner game people want.
It's this "likely psychological disorder" that has been responsible for most of the greatest innovators, leaders and most successful people in the world.

"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man." - George Bernard Shaw


In response to the OP,

Create your own reality, live your own reality, your perception of life is in fact the only perception that matters in regards to yourself.

Outlandish unabashed self confident certainty... Thats how greatness is achieved.

If yo want to be one of the average masses, then listen to what the average masses deem as possible, rational or prudent. Or conversely you can ignore them, believe what they would never believe, try what they would never try and be what they will never be...

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Except Great innovaters have great knowledge of their area of expertise and creaitivty at their disposal.

Great leaders have great communication skills, ability in the field they are leading and a personality type that handles responsibility well.

Being Delusional =/= being talented, motivated and capable.


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All game (life) is innergame, the outergame if you even want to call it that is just a reflection of the self, in interacting with others. So in that, I'd say outergame isn't really nessary in the terms ppl define it as, you just need to talk to people/be yourself- if your working on yourself, beliefs, attitude/mindsets- you don't need anymore. Don't take that as an excuse not to talk to people (in a community sense), or "oh positive thinking will get me results", you still need to express it and do it.


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