Okay so I go out quite frequently and have noticed a pattern. Now just a bit about my past, I'm not terrible with women at all. I get the occasional fuck closes, can get a make-out close about 60% of the time and a number close 100% of the time.

Now here is the issue. If I don't fuck close and only get a make-out close, then the girl ignores me when I try to call or text her the next time I try talking to her. But if I just number close, then I do hear from her the next time I try talking to her. I've even got fuck closes and haven't heard from them ever again even when I was hoping to hit it again. So whats the deal here.. should I not do make-out closes if I want to hear from the girl again? Because it just seems like if I do a make-out close with her then my chances from hearing from here again hit a brickwall somehow.

A little about my game. I run situational/girl perspective openers to start, I'm a regular with many friends at most establishments I go to so my value is fairly high. I build comfort, do mind routines, neg/be playful often, use personality conveying stories, light kino such as highfiving, push-pull hugging, poking at first, then when I isolate the girl I do more kino such as kissing her forehead (which works amazing, learned it from speer) and she's cool with it then chances are she's cool with making out. So after all this attraction and after she's qualified me and we're comfortable with each other and I've showed her that I'm a cool fun guy I tell her I'm going to ask her the question of the day and then ask her "do you want to kiss me?" Most of the time I've worked my game so good its overkill and they almost always say yes, and when they say maybe then I say lets find out, and if they say no then I say well I didn't say you could (this routine is from mystery which works amazing for make-out closes). I usually do this near closing time, we make-out, I get the number then I bounce. When I try to text/call her in a day or 2 she doesn't answer/reply. I have no clue how something can work out so well and not get a day 2.. So does anyone have any suggestion to what is going wrong?

Maybe you can only ask those girls why?
One day I got a trouble like that. I asked a couple dates, why they dont want to go further. They said things like you make me feel like a number on your list.
After it i slowed down my game and began to act more like a friend and. That's it ! I got the girl I realy wished for.

It was almost 10 years ago and. Now i am single and I read all those PUA stuff it was like OMG I was doing that lol !

remember that hot babes get asked for her numbers a lot, so when u call her/text her
u have to be different from the rest of the fools out there

are u being different when u call/text her?

i find ur situation very weird, in my experience whenever i fuck or make out close i always hear from them again, maybe the girls u met have a lot of guilty feelings after make out with u, maybe they have boyfriends or something like that

these are the only advices i can give u

1. text her the next day after u met her, and say something relative to the conversation u had or something that reminds her of u in a good way
dont give they time to forget about u, text her the day after, off course dont sound needed

2 tease her, teasing her a little can raise the chances she´ll respond, chiks love games and text flirting, try to add a little of that to ur arsenal

3 always take a couple of minutes to respond after she does, u are a bussy men with lots of stuff going on, why would u respond right away, and never send a 2 message until she responds first, if she doesnt respond whatever forget her

4 dont give up on fuck/ make out close, like i said ur situation is kinda weird, maybe u just had some bad luck, or the girls were too crazy or religious or something like that

ok why would you ask if a man is being different from the other men when one doesnt even know what other men are doing?

Often when you escalate in the club scene, then they get buyers remorse, they think you're a player.

The times I've kissed a girl in the club scene, and she kissed back just as enthusiastically - and then afterwards quickly deserted me.

A few possibilities come to mind. One, as Conker pointed out, is that the girls think you're a player. Another: many of them are willing to play along only so far before they get tired of what sounds from the description of your game like a lot of contrived routines; the girls aren't getting enough sense of who you really are as a person -- or they think there's little more to you than the artifice you project. And a third possibility, I'm sorry to say, is that you're not a good kisser. Do some research on kissing techniques, and see if you can improve yours.

Good luck, man.

Ciornia

easy, imagine that u are a HB10, how many guys do u think will aproach u ? in a night ? in a day ? in a weekend ? in a full week ? probably to many to count them, so thats the why to be different, now, u say, how do i know if im being different if i dont know what the other guys are doing? easy, how long ago do u know this site? is ur game different now than before u encounter this site? do ur friends know about this site? if not, have u seen their game, why im asking these questions, cuz its easy to see the difference between guys who study how to really understand girls and guys who do what society has impose on them, they do what everybody else do (pay everything for the girl, buy her presents, be extremly polite and romantic, tell her a lot of compliments, basically they give themselves to the girl, killing every chance they ever had) i need more space to fully explain this, but u cant tell me that u have never seen the tipical guy who is eager to talk to a girl but is searching for the perfect line, he goes out with her, spends a lot of money just to get a "lets just be friends" in the end