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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 5:55 am 
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Its kinda an opener Mixed with a routine i Came up with.

I'm kinda new hear, so im working on perfecting certain things, Because I know i have lots to learn.

I would just like to know your opinion on it.


Me: Hey, Can I ask you something?

Her: yes (If no) Then,Have something part prepared and walk away

Me: Well, See theres this pretty girl, I just saw, And I dont know what i should say

Her. lol, umm.. well.. Be yourself.. etc.. whatever she says..

Me: I am being myself, etc blah :)

Make it so that she can understand your reffering to her.

Her: You talkin bout me? Or whatever she says

Me: Ha, No I'm talking about your smile, :), It can turn a straight man gay

Her: whats that supose to mean..

The conversation from then on went smooth.


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You mean it can turn a gay man straight? (would make more sense) :wink:


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PostPosted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 9:50 pm 
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Haha, I like it!

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I'm not a fan. You're starting with a DLV immediately. You want to demonstrate higher value. Otherwise, you're just digging yourself a hole.


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Actually, The turn a straight man gay, Was meant to be a Neg?

Well, The doc, can i ask you, How could I edit this , I'd appreaciate all the advice i could get.

All the women/girls in my life, are really pissing me off, with the mind games. I'd like to be the one that plays the minds game for once.


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99% of women are not playing mind games and just want a guy to sweep them off their feet - if they're avoiding you, they're not playing mind games, they're just not attracted to you. And 99% of the time it's because of your behavior, not your looks.


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I like this one to be honest, it's cocky, playful and shows a lot of confidence.
Nice one, i'm gonna try it out in the field this weekend!

Good going mate!

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Nice, instead of saying " Hey can I ask your something?"

Just say "Hey, quick question ..." Cuts down time with the opener, plus it is't DLV.

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Thanks I really appreciate the negative and positive feed back.

Oh and there not avoiding me, Its just like. I'll be talking to alotta girls, then I'll start feeling feelings for one. Then I'll make mistakes, That come off as I'm not high value, Not that I'm needy, But to easy. And It doesent help that the girl I'm talking to is talking to alotta other guys, HB10.


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Thanks I really appreciate the negative and positive feed back.

Oh and there not avoiding me, Its just like. I'll be talking to alotta girls, then I'll start feeling feelings for one. Then I'll make mistakes, That come off as I'm not high value, Not that I'm needy, But to easy. And It doesent help that the girl I'm talking to is talking to alotta other guys, HB10.
Okay well at least you're honest to yourself about that and not that they are playing mind games.

Think about times when a girl has liked you and you weren't that fussed, and how you didn't do the things that would turn them off.


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what the fuck are you talking about ?

did you even try this out? or did you imagine this in your head


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You're starting with a DLV immediately. You want to demonstrate higher value. Otherwise, you're just digging yourself a hole.
I strongly agree with this, you don't wanna show her you're picking her up. It just isn't natural.

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agree dlv straight away with the pretty girl line


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 12:59 pm 
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Here's a variation to try..................



You: Hello, you know when you're (describe what you are both doing ie walking through the mall or whatever) and you see someone really attractive (subtly point at yourself and slightly nod)

Her: Pause for less than a second, your assuming rapport....

Me: Well, See theres this pretty girl, I just saw (subtly point at her), And the chemistry is so surreal I dont know what i should say

Her. lol, umm.. well.. Be yourself.. etc.. whatever she says..

Me: I am being myself, etc blah Smile

Make it so that she can understand your reffering to her.

Her: You talkin bout me? Or whatever she says

You: Can you feel that (If you can slightly touch or tap her when you say the word "that" the unconscious doesn't know if you are referring to the chemistry or the tap, because it feels the tap it lets the chemistry suggestion through as well)Ha, No (nod your head when you say the word "no" I'm talking about your smile, Smile, It can turn a straight man gay.

Her: whats that supose to mean..

The conversation from then on went smooth.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2011 10:38 pm 
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Hey,

Well, I believe that your opener is basically good. It opens a conversation, creates the basic comfort to start talking to the girl. It just doesn't create attraction, and it's actually a DLV, as it was said here.

I suggest a bit different variation. I used it many times successfully.

You do the same, approach a girl, and begin discussing another girl in the bar club. Ask her what she thinks about her, does she looks smart, funny, etc. ( My game is a bit extreme, so I also ask what she thinks about her body, maybe her breasts are a bit small, whether she is good for a one night stand and so on)

Create a whole conversation regarding the other girl. You see, it's rather easy to move the conversation from the specific girl to girls in general, making it a good topic over which you can convey your attractive qualities.

Now you are talking. You don't need to show that you were interested in her when you approached. Use the qualification phase to make her win you.


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