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doesn't going direct leave her to make an instant decision to judge u on ur looks which may be ur weak point?
Maybe, except that women aren't only attracted to your looks.

When you have the balls to go up to a woman, sober, in the broad light of day, and say they're really hot, you demonstrate a lot of attractive qualities

You're showing that you're confident, you know what you want and are willing to go out and get it, you're experienced in dealing with women, you are driven and persistent (in a good way), you're unique and different (again in a good way), and more.

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Any guy can pull this off if the girl is enough of a slut. This completely takes the fun out of the game.


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[quote="blondguy"][quote="reventon9"]doesn't going direct leave her to make an instant decision to judge u on ur looks which may be ur weak point?[/quote]

Maybe, except that women aren't only attracted to your looks.

When you have the balls to go up to a woman, sober, in the broad light of day, and say they're really hot, you demonstrate a lot of attractive qualities

You're showing that you're confident, you know what you want and are willing to go out and get it, you're experienced in dealing with women, you are driven and persistent (in a good way), you're unique and different (again in a good way), and more.[/quote]

ur right and this survey of women supports that
valetmag website ->living->features->2010->the-female-perspective.php


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Any guy can pull this off if the girl is enough of a slut. This completely takes the fun out of the game.
This is a statement made from lack of experience.

Firstly, if she really is a slut, what "fun" did you take out by cutting out the crap? Secondly, your assumption shows a lack of understanding of the female situation at large. Many girls are just happy that a young guy has the balls to talk to her. Most of you don't, and the ones that do, pussy foot around instead of getting to the point, which is really annoying and already disqualifies you as being a coward.


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i would love it if one of you guys share your direct openers.. i just wanna see if i am blunt enough or if if still hold back too much

it would be much appreciated
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Goddammit Conker, I think I'm only inclined to like you because of your avatar. There's another side to this too. I was texting a girl today and pushing for a meet up, she seemed open, but I kept pushing and I think I blew it. If you're constantly direct, constantly pulling for what you want, you'll also lose a fair number of prospects too. It's important to push, too. If you constantly pull like a needy little brat, the girl will instinctively start to resist, even if she wants what you want. I know this from numerous failures being overly direct and/or overly sexual.

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There's a difference between being direct, and being direct while being flirty.

example (on meeting up)

Solely Direct:
"I want to get together with you so I can find out more about you."

Is this a bad thing? No, not always, but she's not a research assignment.

Flirty Direct:
"We can go to the mall and see who looks better in the change room."

To confirm that this isn't indirect;
Indirect:
"I might be going to the mall tomorrow. I always like to have a female opinion on the clothes I'm buying, you should tag along!" (note: you don't give a fuck about her opinion, you just want to spend time with her, which is why this is indirect).

Direct + sexual (flirty) = success

The word flirt/flirty/flirtatious is not brought up often enough in this community.


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There's a difference between being direct, and being direct while being flirty.

example (on meeting up)

Solely Direct:
"I want to get together with you so I can find out more about you."

Is this a bad thing? No, not always, but she's not a research assignment.

Flirty Direct:
"We can go to the mall and see who looks better in the change room."

To confirm that this isn't indirect;
Indirect:
"I might be going to the mall tomorrow. I always like to have a female opinion on the clothes I'm buying, you should tag along!" (note: you don't give a fuck about her opinion, you just want to spend time with her, which is why this is indirect).

Direct + sexual (flirty) = success

The word flirt/flirty/flirtatious is not brought up often enough in this community.
Couldn't agree more! Great post. Here's another example to add on to.

Me: Question... If we had sex tonight, would that be considered cheating.
HB: Umm I guess not. (If she doesn't have a bf ofcourse)
Me: *Reaches out hand* Hi, my name is John.

This works better than those direct, but not flirty lines. "Hey you look sexy".


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Goddammit Conker, I think I'm only inclined to like you because of your avatar. There's another side to this too. I was texting a girl today and pushing for a meet up, she seemed open, but I kept pushing and I think I blew it. If you're constantly direct, constantly pulling for what you want, you'll also lose a fair number of prospects too. It's important to push, too. If you constantly pull like a needy little brat, the girl will instinctively start to resist, even if she wants what you want. I know this from numerous failures being overly direct and/or overly sexual.
I often dress up as him at parties etc. heheh.

You're right about pushing too much - you can be direct, and not outcome dependent, eg. simplified; (you) "Let's hang out" (her) "Um..." (you) "Hey no stress"


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It's such a freaking fine line. I was just out with a friend from out of town and his wife had an attractive friend. We hit it off really well and as she was leaving, I pushed for her phone number and she was clearly resistant, so I was just like, "You're allowed to say no, it's totally okay you know." And she told me she was in a long distance relationship. I leaned on her a bit more, but decided to respect that since she's 29; an adult. In retrospect, I should have pushed a little harder, "It's just coffee after all." It's a hard balance of knowing when to pull back and when to drive a little harder.

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i've a question about direct approach.

what if you approach a more than single-set? say she has a friend, wouldn't it be awkward if you approach her and be all like "i think you're hot" while her friend's just there?

come to think of it, what if it's a multi-set, with guys? i dunno, seems like indirect approach still has its uses here. unless someone can explain to me how to use direct in these types of situations?

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i've a question about direct approach.

what if you approach a more than single-set? say she has a friend, wouldn't it be awkward if you approach her and be all like "i think you're hot" while her friend's just there?

come to think of it, what if it's a multi-set, with guys? i dunno, seems like indirect approach still has its uses here. unless someone can explain to me how to use direct in these types of situations?

thanks
You can hit on one girl in front of her friends. In fact, it shows you're even MORE ballsy than just doing it to a lone wolf. She'll blush and her friends will giggle most likely, and you can isolate or just n-close in under 5 minutes right there.

Mixed set is a little tricky, as you have to feel out whether any of the guys are with the girl you like. However, you're being so fucking ALPHA they'll likely shut the fuck up once you deliver your opener and start talking to her.

Things are only awkward if you make them such. I often talk to a 2-set without a wing and just n-close one of the girls right in front of her friend/sister. As long as you direct a bit of your conversation towards the friend so you're not being rude, she'll probably stay there whilst you chat up your "target."

There are specific openers I can teach you for

Mum + Girl
Girl + Guy (not sure if BF or not)
2-3 Girls, all hot, where you want to keep your options open as to which one to close

and more

BUT

you'll have to come on my course ;-)

As for now, my standard direct opener for a single girl is

"Hi, I know this is a bit random, but I just saw you walking by and I think you're really cute, so I thought I'd come over and introduce myself :-) "

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Goddammit Conker, I think I'm only inclined to like you because of your avatar. There's another side to this too. I was texting a girl today and pushing for a meet up, she seemed open, but I kept pushing and I think I blew it. If you're constantly direct, constantly pulling for what you want, you'll also lose a fair number of prospects too. It's important to push, too. If you constantly pull like a needy little brat, the girl will instinctively start to resist, even if she wants what you want. I know this from numerous failures being overly direct and/or overly sexual.
I often dress up as him at parties etc. heheh.

You're right about pushing too much - you can be direct, and not outcome dependent, eg. simplified; (you) "Let's hang out" (her) "Um..." (you) "Hey no stress"
Pushing and pushing for a day 2 or for sex is NOT the same as being direct and to the point.

After a direct opener, you've expressed that you're sexually interested in her and would like to get to know her. If she says no, then you just move on. If she continues the conversation, then you just play normal game from C1, assuming attraction, and just spending time building a connection before eventually fucking. You can still play the same push-pull stuff with kino and by still being a challenge, not being too available, making her jump through qualification hoops, and all the rest of it.

Saying "please please meet me, oh come on, just this once, I'll buy you dinner, etc." is not being direct, it's just being needy.

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Awesome thread... :)


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So I am brand new to all this and just trying to get a better idea of how it works. I am a college student and I always see hot girls and I want to talk to them, but just don't know where the conversation will go especially in this scenario. But I feel like if I get a chance to take her out, I can do work from there. It's just the initial conversation. For instance, you are a student on campus, walking to class and you see a good looking girl. How does the conversation go from start to end? How do you make it so you don't come off creepy?


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