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Well to be honest, if everything has been good for most of the year of the relationship, that should be a pretty good secure base, so she should respect and be open with you.
Actually, this case is unique. The passion and commitment is there, but security and openness are not. Hence, we are still not together as couples. And I'm sort of questioning where this commitment thing is going.

I think I am starting to see where the problem lies now- creating a source of security as you mentioned. This I am inexperienced at. I tend to make girls really insecure. How can I provide more security to a girl?

And by the way, thanks for the help so far. Much appreciated.
Hmmm Make a girl feel insecure, like how? Telling her she doesn't look nice, ignoring her a lot, being seen with other girls? I don't sense you do this., BUT, seen as your not a couple, and your obviously looking to get past this problem, and hoping to be a couple in the future, are you sure she wants/thinks the same?

Security comes from being yourself, it's things you can work on, compliments now and then, communication is everything in order for a relationship to work, letting her know your there for her. It doesn't need to be said everyday, or even every week, just when the going gets tough, be there for her, and now is the very reason, in my opinion, you should go direct, and ask, calmly, what/if something is wrong? because she doesn't seem to be herself.

Trust me, a girl can appreciate when a man is there for her, especially if she values him.

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To be honest Chel' & other,Im still confused;no diss Exclusiveme.

Silence in general(LTR).

I used to give my gf the silent SPAM and she'd give it to me for many reasons a disagreements.

She's giving you the silent SPAM from something said or done by you.

Dont you have an idea of what went wrong?

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Maybe it's the type of girl which is unable to express emotions or even worse: to communicate in general.

Will only be problems mate.


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Maybe it's the type of girl which is unable to express emotions or even worse: to communicate in general.

Will only be problems mate.

I agree, that's why he needs to be direct, and ask what's up, if she's going to be closed, it will lead to future problems. Communication is what makes a relationship grow and work, important an understanding is there.

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Maybe it's the type of girl which is unable to express emotions or even worse: to communicate in general.

Will only be problems mate.

I agree, that's why he needs to be direct, and ask what's up, if she's going to be closed, it will lead to future problems. Communication is what makes a relationship grow and work, important an understanding is there.
It might not help.

Some girls are just unable to talk freely about stuff like this. Mainly to do shit that happened in their past (the way they are raised/past ltr) or just a personality.

1/ she will open up only slightly, but it will be temporarily, and next time you are there again. and again. and again.
2/ she won't even open up

Problems, mind-games, thinking, insecureness, etc. I don't want to be negative, but its the truth. Consider your situation: take it or leave it.


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Maybe it's the type of girl which is unable to express emotions or even worse: to communicate in general.

Will only be problems mate.

I agree, that's why he needs to be direct, and ask what's up, if she's going to be closed, it will lead to future problems. Communication is what makes a relationship grow and work, important an understanding is there.
It might not help.

Some girls are just unable to talk freely about stuff like this. Mainly to do shit that happened in their past (the way they are raised/past ltr) or just a personality.

1/ she will open up only slightly, but it will be temporarily, and next time you are there again. and again. and again.
2/ she won't even open up

Problems, mind-games, thinking, insecureness, etc. I don't want to be negative, but its the truth. Consider your situation: take it or leave it.
I fully agree, I had similar problem with my last LTR to add to all the other problems, it was because of her past LTR, not her raising.

If a girl refuses to open up to you after a long time, chances are, she never will, not to a good level anyway.

It's shit, I personally wouldn't want to deal with, so now I'm glad it's over. Just adds stress and headache to the relationship.

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Maybe it's the type of girl which is unable to express emotions or even worse: to communicate in general.

Will only be problems mate.

I agree, that's why he needs to be direct, and ask what's up, if she's going to be closed, it will lead to future problems. Communication is what makes a relationship grow and work, important an understanding is there.
It might not help.

Some girls are just unable to talk freely about stuff like this. Mainly to do shit that happened in their past (the way they are raised/past ltr) or just a personality.

1/ she will open up only slightly, but it will be temporarily, and next time you are there again. and again. and again.
2/ she won't even open up

Problems, mind-games, thinking, insecureness, etc. I don't want to be negative, but its the truth. Consider your situation: take it or leave it.
It's ironic, but your response just made me realize that I was the one closing off. The one not being open and communicating about things with her. Thank you for helping me realize this. Now' I'm going to be more open.

The only reason I never was was because I was afraid it will lower my attraction value. From learning about PU, I read somewhere that it is uncool for a man to express emotions which is something done through opening up. When you open up, you talk about your problems which is expressing emotion.

But like Chelios taught me, communication and being yourself is key to making a relationship work. Therefore, thank you for all the help guys!


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To be honest Chel' & other,Im still confused;no diss Exclusiveme.

Silence in general(LTR).

I used to give my gf the silent SPAM and she'd give it to me for many reasons a disagreements.

She's giving you the silent SPAM from something said or done by you.

Dont you have an idea of what went wrong?
Well, I think the silence is because I was silent, and only weeks later to explain to her that I had some problems on my side. She must be angry at me for leaving her out of my problems.

Right now, I'm apologizing and telling her not to leave me. So far, still silence. But what bothers me is the fact that when she became silent, she said "A dinner might have changed her life." That makes me worry. What could possibly happen at a dinner? I'm thinking she cheated on me, but that's stretching it. If not, what can happen at a dinner?


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To be honest Chel' & other,Im still confused;no diss Exclusiveme.

Silence in general(LTR).

I used to give my gf the silent SPAM and she'd give it to me for many reasons a disagreements.

She's giving you the silent SPAM from something said or done by you.

Dont you have an idea of what went wrong?
Well, I think the silence is because I was silent, and only weeks later to explain to her that I had some problems on my side. She must be angry at me for leaving her out of my problems.

Right now, I'm apologizing and telling her not to leave me. So far, still silence. But what bothers me is the fact that when she became silent, she said "A dinner might have changed her life." That makes me worry. What could possibly happen at a dinner? I'm thinking she cheated on me, but that's stretching it. If not, what can happen at a dinner?
Right, first things first, I would never have said, please don't leave me, one your not properly together, secondly, it's needy.

Dinner with whom, friends, family? Best bet, is stop assuming, or thinking, you'll go crazy man! Ask her out right, if she's silent, you return the favour and get on with life.

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Right, first things first, I would never have said, please don't leave me, one your not properly together, secondly, it's needy.
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Dinner with whom, friends, family? Best bet, is stop assuming, or thinking, you'll go crazy man! Ask her out right, if she's silent, you return the favour and get on with life.
This too.

If she's silent, I should remain silent too? Do explain how that's gonna work if she's planning to leave me?


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Right, first things first, I would never have said, please don't leave me, one your not properly together, secondly, it's needy.
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Dinner with whom, friends, family? Best bet, is stop assuming, or thinking, you'll go crazy man! Ask her out right, if she's silent, you return the favour and get on with life.
This too.

If she's silent, I should remain silent too? Do explain how that's gonna work if she's planning to leave me?
Talking straight now, if your not together, how does her silence mean she will leave you? Your not together, you said.

You should just get on with things if she's going to be an ignorant bitch. Are you a mug? Do you want to be classed as an idiot by her and desperate? If the answer to those questions are no, good.

Do you want her to wonder what your up to sooner than later? If so, fight her silence, with being silent yourself, she'll wonder why your not contacting her. You'll start having fun and she'll try running back before you know it.

She's showing a serious lack of respect, and maybe she's not the girl you thought she was.

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Talking straight now, if your not together, how does her silence mean she will leave you? Your not together, you said.

Oh, we're not together as in like a boyfriend-girlfriend label.
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You should just get on with things if she's going to be an ignorant bitch.
That's an assumption. We're assuming that she's not talking to me, because she doesn't appreciate my concern, but what if her silence was a result of me? Maybe, she's silent, because I pissed her off by being silence first, and leaving her out of my problems. This is something I'm realizing through the discussion with you and everyone else on here.
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Do you want her to wonder what your up to sooner than later? If so, fight her silence, with being silent yourself, she'll wonder why your not contacting her. You'll start having fun and she'll try running back before you know it.
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She's showing a serious lack of respect, and maybe she's not the girl you thought she was.
It's funny, cause I was silent first and I'm starting to realize from your answers why she is now silent. She's pissed at me for leaving her out of my family problems and then to suddenly apologize for her. She initially thought I was silent because I was angry with something she's done.

hence, i'm having a tough time now how to go on about this.. She' doesn't buy my apologies. Any tips on this would much be appreciated too. Thank you so much for the help so far otherwise I wouldn't have realized the stuff I am now discussing with you.


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Honestly, if someone doesn't buy your apologies, what else can you do, beg? No, your being a man enough and apologizing, you leave the situation, eventually, the person involved will think, you did right.

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Honestly, if someone doesn't buy your apologies, what else can you do, beg? No, your being a man enough and apologizing, you leave the situation, eventually, the person involved will think, you did right.
Well, I was thinking that if someone doesn't buy your apologies it is because they think that you don't know what you are apologizing for. It's like cant think of an example. But in my case, it's like I'm apologizing for being silent. But on her side, she's not angry about me being silent. Instead, she's angry at me for not sharing my problems with her and leaving her out. Hence, when I say sorry, she's like "Do you even know what you are being sorry for?"

So what I am thinking is that since it is my fault to begin with, I should man up to that. Become a noob and ask for her forgiveness. However, I am looking foward to better options. I just don't think walking out is the best solution in this case, but I'm open to more interpretation from you now that I've provided more details.
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