i see to many women with no real discription of herself or its very generic and doesnt give you any info to work with for a great email. what to do?

Give her back the same amount of effort she put in. If she only puts in the bare minimum, chances are she's only there for attention anyway, and you won't even get a response.

How do u deal with the generic perfolio? most of them say the same stuff!

Tell them to look at your profile and talk to you if you have common interest. If a girl can't be bothered to fill out a profile, she's not really into online dating and you'll probably never meet her anyway. You should focus attention on girls with common interests if you want to have any success anyway.

Ok let me reclearify the question. almost all female profiles are very generic. almost all say they like cooking dancing and working out. yes the ones that do something differnt i can come up with an opener. but most dont give you anything. i really think a strong factor in becoming what i think you would say is a strong sarger is bieng able to whip up a conversation naturally out of nothing. now for example i had this girl who had a generic profile. but she had a pic with her standing by a new camero. so i hit her up saying did you steal that car? it worked for a conversation opener but she told me how she got the pic but left me with nothing to keep going with. like another question or statement. so how do i get a conversation opener out of nothing and work it to a phone number or email?

Women don't have to be very interesting in their profiles to attract attention. When you say ALL the profiles are generic, you're really saying you don't have a lot of respect for women. Read between the lines and try to figure out how the girl is trying to portray herself. Is she trying to look really intelligent, successful, busy, energetic, nurturing, vulnerable? I'm convinced if you can tap into how she's portraying herself, you can get her full attention. That's something I'm working on. Link these impossible profiles and I'll tell you what I'd message.

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31 and still figuring it out.

Neg it. Thats what I do with them. There is no harm in throwing out a line to see if the girl will bite or not with girl's profiles that have no or little info. Whats the worse can happen? You wasted a couple of minutes of your time?

thats what ive been trying and it works better then what i was doing. how do i know if the negs are pushing it? also after the initial neg i roll into some cocky comedy. but when i try asking question and start to get a little more serious but still throwing a lil C and F i loose them. i dont know whats up.