Hey guys,
I'm an afc, that much will probably be clear soon and I'm just curious to see what people far more experienced than me in the ways of women will have to say about the situation I'm in. So I'm in a reasonably small college and every now and then a large number of the student body go to this club. So I went and when I was there I tried to dance with this one girl. She gave me a weird look and walked away. So next time I'm at this club, probably a month or so later, I see throughout the night, she turns several guys down. She won't dance with anybody besides her girlfriends, but I still decide to approach her and we end up grinding through three or four songs. The next time I go, I ask my friend to be my wing and he walks up and starts dancing with her friend and I try to dance with her again. She gets up off of me but her friend smiles and pushes her back onto me before she grabs her friends hand and walks away. So, from her friend's reaction, I think they talked about me at least a little bit after the second time at this club and her friend is encouraging this. I have a feeling that the girl I danced with was pretty timid, seeing as all her friends are girls and she refuses to dance with most guys. Since I'm at a small school I see her reasonably often, probably once or twice every other day or so, though it's usually in the cafeteria and she is always with the same group of friends. I am also leaving for a month in a few days and am less likely to see her these next few days since it is finals week so I may need to wait a month to talk to her. What should I do? How should I approach her or her friends who she always seems to be with and what should I say? I know that college game is supposed to be different but any help at all would be very appreciated.
Thanks,
Rocker

I think you should forget about this girl (at least for a while) and go meet other less timid girls.

Dude !!!! her friends were helping you !.

Listen, when you see her again and she is with her friends just go to her table and say to her friends "hi can i talk to her in private" ? and then u talk to ur girl "hey u remember me?" with a nice smile, the rest just comes natural, tell her you like her, if she is tiimid then say something about that "hey dont be timid" and smile

from the sound of it you didnt really open you just kinda went over there and hoped for a dance... go to youtube thats a excellent source of info for the basics of pua.. i'd suggest watching http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JA_Dmu-dBz0 all 30 parts that pretty well lays out the basics very well i think... but thats just me you can do what you want

Thanks seins. I had a feeling her friend was helping me out and its good to know I'm not crazy. Also it seems like "don't be timid" along with a smile could be a decent neg. Also thanks Cspears, I will definitely check out those videos.

i presume you bump into her around college? Just stop her and say 'do i know you from somewhere?' - its cheesy, but its true, you DO know her from somewhere! being in a club, you're memory is a little hazy because (at least, you imply) you're dancing and sarging loads of women...

if she doesn't suggest the time you danced with her in the club - which she probably wont (for fear of looking too keen) - you hint at the club, and you'll probably come to the conclusion that - yeah probably you've seen eachother at the club (hopefully both knowing exactly how you knew eachother).

You can end it by getting an introduction off her - she knows you, you know her. You'll see her around so no need to push for a number at the moment.

Going up to her table of friends... I don't rate that approach. Asking her friends if you could talk in private will make her think 'don't i get a choice... who is this guy?'. Telling her you like her after a) never talking to her and b) just having her grind up your cock for 15 minutes is a bad jump in my opinion.

I say approach it softly, catch her on the off-guard, if you appear too forward (like going up to all her friends, asking them to leave and then telling her you like her), it sounds like she'll run a mile. Just show her you're a normal person first, then game her hard with negs and push-pulls once you got her on your table.

Thanks stateofarrest. That sounds like an excellent approach. I think I'll try that. I probably see her several times a day but I think I'll wait until after break since its crunch time now...unless you think it would be better to approach before the month long break? Also any suggestions on specific negs or push/pull routines? There are a few that I like but I really can't speak from experience, just liked the sound of them.

You are kind of assuming a lot of stuff, and if you see her often then no hurry. First, you need to know if she is a 5, or 7, or a 10 not only in beauty, but in her social circle. Then from there you can plan an approach that is goign to work, and not one that is goign to get you burned. If she lacks social value then she may open up to you, but if she is rather high on it then hi I have seen you around is goign to probably not work

OK I havn't been on here for about 5 months, but what I can see here has a lot of potential. Firstly, her friends are on your side. Secondly, she's shy ("timid" comes up alot in this post).

You need to show a little control in order to get anywhere. She's clearly not the forward type so you need to be the dominant person in this play. You say you see her from time to time at school, maybe catch up to her and start talking. "I see you around alot and I've never took the courage to talk to you... so... hey" and smile. It relates to her soft side, makes her feel less like you're invading her, but still makes her think you're a strong character (afterall, you have approached her).

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definitely get to her before the month long break if you can it can be an advantage - if she likes you, you'll at least crop up in her thoughts over the break, as long as you intrigue her! If you can't then don't worry too much - you'll see her soon.

I wouldn't like to suggest and specific push/pulls or negs, i think it really has to depend on the person. But once you get relaxed with her, getting to know her - you'll probably get to know her classes etc. Say she takes physics, or philosophy, or anything really you can joke with that 'philosophy is so boring!' From here you need to assess her reaction to see how far you can push the negs.

Absolutely not.

. . . And this is not a situation for negging.
Yes, it's cheesy and pretending you don't remember her after thinking, thinking, planning, and asking questions on PUAF for a week is stuuupid. All of this will come through when you communicate with her. Rocker . . . you're asking all these questions and formulating 'pu strategies' to avoid what you KNOW YOU HAVE TO DO. There is no magic approach or routine. You simply have to do what you want to do. Let yourself do it. . . give yourself permission. F all this negging and pretending to be some sly pua. You WANT to chat with her. You WANT to chat with her friends. You want to be her boyfriend. You WANT to be friends with her friends. Yes or no?

This is what you do:

So you see them at the cafetaria you and you go, "Hey, can I join you guys?" (As you sit your fat ass down. . . actually, a second after you sit down)

This is what the individuals of that table are thinking: (You probably already know their personalities. For fun, match the quotes with the chicks)

"Oh my God! This is that guy!" . . ."Oh Shit, he's here" . . . "Oh My God, I'm going to tell him that ____ likes her." . . . "I'm going to pass out if he asks her out" . . . "

This is what you do:

"Hey, I only see you guys at that club . . . but we go to the same school! I'm Rocker . . ." and just put your hand out to the nearest one and go once around. REMEMBER NAMES . . . and when you get around to your girl, you do what comes naturaly, you smile more and you give her a tad more eye contact.

This is what they think:"(bliss)" . . . "He's definitely into her" . . . "WTF? He just eye fucked her." . . .

This is what you do:

Guide all chats towards getting YOUR group and HER group together. Parties, clubs, bars . . . etc . . . If you can, set something up. If not, get all of their phone numbers so that "We should definitely all hang out . . ." but MAKE IT A POINT to get your girl's number. No under the radar stuff. Let everybody there FEEL your intentions.

Why this works:

Everybody wins. You get the girl. She gets you. Her friends get an opportunity to meet your friends. (You don't really think they enjoy dancing with each other every night do you?)

Do this now.

Thanks for the input guys. I'm going to approach as soon as I get back and I'll definitely take it all into account.