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PostPosted: Mon Dec 13, 2010 6:29 pm 
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Whether AFC,aspiring -PUA,natural,I notice most men get into exclusive relationships in haste.

I'd had this prob' also where I would meet a girl,lay her,then suddenly realize Im in a relationship within 2-3 weeks.

Seems to be a struggle to stay promiscuous.

With my current-MILF gf,when I'd 1st met her,I was at the height of social dynamics,I was laying 4 other girls at that time.

So I had all reasons to not get exclusive.

But unbeknowing to me,I ended up in an exclusive LTR about 3 weeks after.

I truely didnt want to get serious with any 1 chicc,as I was at my highest point of game.

It's as if my gf wanted to tame me.

She did manage to make me give up all other girls I was laying,and eventually topped sarging(openly).

From my obervations,this happens to men all across the board:whether AFC,natural or PUA.

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It sounds like you are dealing with someone that knows the game, or...the 2 of you are actually 'compatible' on more than one level.

If you are banging more than one girl, chances are your $ex drive is through the roof, or none of them posses the quality(s) you require to become exclusive.

This has been my experience in the past. A girl lacks more than one trait I find attractive, so I go on the hunt. I meet another girl, and again I run into the same problem. Next thing you know I am juggling multiple girls, getting plenty of $ex but nothing to get excited about.

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@Sinful-Lol,you're reading me like a hawk.

But I was layin 4 girls out of high-sex drive;in fact,my sex drive's pretty low.

Variety is what I'd craved;not #'s.

You made a great point I didnt see;none of them possesed a quality to make me go exclusive;except my current gf.

What that quality is is elusive right now.

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Variety, ah yes....that will definitely put multiple women on my plate. :twisted:

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@Sinful-Lmao,I feel you.

Actually I have sex with my gf about once a week on average.

As time went by,the newness & novelty faded.

But if I were to have the chance to lay 5-new girls in 5 days,I would have the drive for it(lol).

Back to topic:

Reason for this post was I observing few distant friends of mines(some natural & AFC')have all entered LTR's within 2-3 weeks of seeing a specific girl.

Shouldnt we be playing the field more before going exclusive-and to most likely end up breaking up within 2 months?

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i agree and disagree with you.

in my opinion most recovering afc's are not used to getting any sort of action therefore once they do get that elusive lay they tend to stick with it and get into a LTR. this isnt neccesarily a bad thing just depends on what your looking to get out of pua.

on the other hand i know friends who that have o problem laying multiple woman at once. this usually dies pretty quickly as they tend to grow further apart possibly because they dont invest emotionally ?

personally i have no interest in a relationship but if megan fox comes along and sits on my dick that would probably change haha

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@Smooth99-Lmao,I get what you mean about Megan Fox.

You made good points.

I get why RAFC's would dive into an LTR;'cause they rarely had the chance to.

But my things is,I was laying multiple girls and at a high yet dove into,or got sucked into an LTR(lol)!

I got Sinful's point why that happens-1 specific girl had some quality that the others did not.

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so, you got "sucked" into a relationship, eh? lol. she put that good punani on ya and you got hooked. Just kidding. I think what happens is guys aren`t honest with themselves about their real motives with women. Aint nothing wrong with an LTR, as long as these motives are being taken care of by the woman.


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I agree.
I was in a relationship within the first week of meeting my last g.f. :?

After getting a lay at a party I was driving her home and she said "pull in here your girlfriend wants a drink". I was like...WTF, I don't even know you yet.....

Maybe its just hardwired in SOME womens head that once you sleep together your automatically in an exclusive relationship??


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@Mr.Amazing-Lmao,good Jamaican impression with the punani thing(lmao)!

Nothing is wrong with LTR's.

At end of the day,every guy would want to be in 1 of mult-.

@New2Game-Lol,I get what you saying.

We men tend to let the woman set the frame-relationship frame and we go along with it.

And I've read the same thing New2Game.

After sex,many women think that it's a relationship.

Many men too I see.

But RARELY is an LTR ever something discussed prior.

It always just happens.

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I can see what your saying k-loc
I think its because people hardly think when it comes to love they just follow their instinct. I think being in the right relationship at the right time with the right girl is also a lifestyle thing too. Some people dont hook up at all they always date. What your parents did may also influence you. So I dont think game is to blame here. It seems like you can get girls its up to u to tell the girls what ur after the day u meet them. That way they dont suck u into a relationship.

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@AidenfuckingBaker-Agree with you.

Im not blaming the communit.I just thought we would be the last guy on Earth to jump into an LTR.

I would expect the average guy would fall fast,but not a community guy.

But I guess we cannot always dictate when we're gonna fall for a specific girl.

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@AidenfuckingBaker-Agree with you.

Im not blaming the communit.I just thought we would be the last guy on Earth to jump into an LTR.

I would expect the average guy would fall fast,but not a community guy.

But I guess we cannot always dictate when we're gonna fall for a specific girl.
I so agree K. I was at the top of my game and feel for a girl, stupidly I let myself in, because with enough determination and game, I think I could have controlled myself, and I let myself in around 3 weeks in. Now we have split up, a week or so ago, and I regret things, I wont be making that mistake again.

Enjoy life, enjoy women, and a serious woman when the time is right. Later down the line, for me anyway!

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Women want to pull you into LTRs because of a paradox they are caught between.

Women are not like men, they do not ONLY need sex. I e; in caveman times they needed physical protection for themselves and their kids. In modern society this physical protection translates into attention or exclusivity the same way that fearlessness and physical adaptivity in pre-modern society translates into confidence and social adaptivity in modern society.

So here's the paradox.

Nice guys / desperate males give the MOST amount of attention to girls. They develop Oneitis, and fully devote themselves to women they love, almost to an obsessive level.

Alpha Males naturally give the LEAST amount of attention to a girl. They are confident and NOT desperate, hence they can mate with multiple females. No reason to claim exclusivity or give 1 girl too much attention.

Now, what can a girl do? She has to choose between going out with a desperate beta who will give her utmost protection (attention) or going out with an Alpha who will produce the strongest offspring (Alpha will pass on his dominant lady killer genes) BUT give her less attention.

Hence, the paradox manifests itself as something that all girls do in relationships. They find an Alpha. They mate with him, have sex etc. And then they attempt to EMASCULATE HIM. I e; the more insecurities they create in their boyfriends, the more shit tests they put him through, the more their boyfriend becomes AFC and the MORE ATTENTION they get. Haven't you noticed how many guys regress into AFC mode after a relationship? This is why, women aggressively emasculate their boyfriends in order to get more attention. The needier they make their boyfriends, the more POWER THEY HAVE in a relationship.

And finally, there's the catch 22 of the paradox. They want to make their boyfriends desperate and needy in order to get more attention from them, HOWEVER, THAT ALSO DECREASES THEIR OWN ATTRACTION. I e; Girl goes out with Alpha. She pushes him to regress back into AFC mode and give her a lot of attention and qualify himself to her. She then loses interest and wants to LJBF him.

Hence, women are naturally self-destructive relationships.

This is why positive masculinity is so important. You must always be on your toes and pass shit tests and WORK on improving yourself. The feminized matrix of society constantly works to de-masculinize men and turn us into pu5sy whipped betas. We need to ALWAYS work towards becoming more Alpha. ALWAYS work towards confronting our insecurities, building social anxiety in our girlfriends and letting them know for sure that our diks don't work long enough to be waiting for them through bouts of sexual withdrawl.

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Women are walking, breathing, eating and shitting contradictions. That's why I personally stay away from the MILF's, the "practice girls", and larger women. All of these girls have one thing in common. They'll latch onto the first penis that goes in their vaginas and clamp down like there's no tomorrow. Girls like this feed off having relationships. It gives them "value" in otherwise slim-pickins. The relationship is based on how they'll benefit from it and disregard any thought in making it work for you too.

Larger women get married earlier than other women. Wonder why. Their market is small, so instead of ending up on Craigslist as "large and in charge" as her heading for a desperate attempt at coming in contact with any male that wanders in her direction, why not get married to the first AFC that's looking for an easy lay? Then, she can settle into her fulfilling married life of complaining how "predictable" and "boring" her husband is and how she suffers in the marriage when she was the one with the finger on the trigger of that shotgun wedding.

The practice girls (HB1-6) are basically the same in this aspect. Girls like this have extrordinarily high self esteem and belittle the "easy girls" and the "sluts" when they'd trade places with them in a heartbeat to get the male attention that they do. They have the high self esteem because of something called, Cognitive Dissonance. If there is a goal you cannot achieve or something that you cannot have by normal means, you rationalize in your mind that it wasn't worth having in the first place. There's nothing wrong with high self-esteem, just with girls like this it's misguided. They've really done nothing spectacular to warrant it, they just feel "superior" to all those "sluts" that are able to get alot of guys. Alot of girls that have this mentality are total put-down artists, miserable to be around.

With MILF's (If they actually HAVE children) it's rare that their focus is on the guy. Most girls who are in their late 30's creeping into the 40's, they're looking for a man who's compatible with their children and looking to settle into something serious. I, for one, wouldn't get into a relationship with the MILF for this sole fact. Her priorities lie with herself and her kid, why tie myself into that mess when I can get a nice young little thing that'll do anything for me? I DONT need an experienced woman. I NEED one with a vagina.

Now, if they DONT have children, I still wouldn't go beyond casual sex. Like they say, men mature and women just age. Their value decreases over time in the eyes of most men, so that's when these women who supposedly "mature" and go for the AFC's. When in reality, they did not mature, they've just had their fun and realized not as many hot studs are in the market for a 40 something woman worn out like an old catcher's mitt. Now it's time for the guys they've ignored in high school and college to take what's leftover of them and pay their way into the glorious Golden Years of their lives.

I've learned one thing from all of this. Get them young, hot, and low self esteem. These girls dont want to settle, because they know they're in the primes of their lives and looking smokin hot. These women are generally gold-digging scum of the earth...but who said you gotta marry em? Of course, im simply looking for sex at this point in my life and am career oriented, but I wont settle for less because with those types of women, most of the times end with clingy, emotionally attached, and annoying types of relationships. Be the fuck buddy, not the boyfriend or the husband.

With everything I've said, there's always an exception to every rule. This generalization about these types of women though aren't far off from the majority. All of them rarely "play the field" and settle down early on. In marriage they'll slowly but surely let themselves go and leave you both wondering what could have been. Sometimes these marriages work. Sometimes people just choose to stay in resentment filled marriages for outside reasons. Never base a marriage on how long it's been, but if the two can still keep each other's company and keep passion alive.


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