Here's the story.

Met this girl at my job, she's a model and she came to my rock climbing center to get classes because they were doing a demo for us a few days after. I talked to her there for a bit, really liked her and she was kinda flirty. She is probably HB8 but extremely charming. She has a boyfriend for 3 years at the time and I didn't make a move or anything.

She came back a few weeks after her classes to pass the certification and she saw me. She asked for my number because she wanted to go rockclimbing with me. From that point we started flirting and texting each other. We went for a couple of drinks, she invited me a few times to clubs. We basically seen each other a bunch of times and had really great time, she's always telling me how pretty I am, how I have a nice smile, touching me.

She says she's bored with her boyfriend, she said she liked me, but I'm doubting her feelings. She acts very flirty around most guys, she has 3-4 guy friends that she sees regularly, although apparently they have girlfriend I can tell she likes the attention.

For the past 2 weeks we texted about 400 times, usually she will call me after her job for a few minutes (That kinda annoys me), although we did speak on the phone for an hour and a half one night. I basically fell in love with that girl, and I think she knows. She texted me once something like ''Woah I really miss you, that's new I'm usually miss independent.'' Or texting that she missed me, or wants to cuddle me.

She also told me once she thought I couldn't handle her, that she was really independent and that she'd probably make me sad. I told her I could handle, package and ship about any girl in the world. Haha.
I'm thinking that I need to be straight about this, tell her that I'm not going to waste my time around with a girl that has a boyfriend, to get things straight with him and let me know..I'm thinking either she flirts like that with most guys or she really likes me and it caught her off guard just like it did with me and she's in a big dillemma.

I went drinking one night and was totally drunk and I texted her some AFC shit like ''I'm worried that you might be doing this for the thrill, like you flirt with other guys and stuff'' To which she replied '' For the thrill? Do you really think I'd get a thrill out of meeting a new guy, questionning my life and maybe risk changing it?''

I'm thinking things went a bit downhill from that point but the next day she was at a staff party with her girl friends and she said that she was getting emotional, and that it was a good thing I wasn't anywhere near her, that she missed me.

I'm seeing her tommorow, we're supposed to hang out. I don't know how I should act with this girl. I want to make her into a LTR girlfriend. Should I freeze her out or keep hanging out, be honest and Alpha and maybe try to kiss her?


Thanks for taking the time to read!

just act normal and flirt...but this time you need to be moving things along physically. the board has plenty of kino techniques to use so look those up. oh, and stop all the bullshit texting and calling her 400 times. relationships rarely start as friendships, so stop playing the friend role.

She has a boyfriend, don't mess around with that. Tell her she needs to get another hobby if she is bored, either way you can't get involved with a girl that is in a relationship. There is to much p*ssy out there (excuse my language) to be all wrapped up into a girl you barely know and that can bring all sorts of drama to your doorstep.

And to answer your question, yes...I do think she is doing it for attention. Remember, she is bored, so you are her thrill on the side, along with the other dumbasses that fall for it. Leave this girl alone, you will be better off.

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I also agree, she's using you as the thing on the side, atleast the way she's acting suggests this.

I think freezing her out would be pointless as she has a so called BF so deep down, the effect would be minimal on her, also she has others to play with.

If she likes you, she'll respect you, or atleast she should.Tell her she needs to either finish with her BF or get on with her relationship. Don't be the guinea pig, don't fuck around with taken girls either, karma will bite you when you least expect it.

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Thanks for your input, altough after today I feel a bit differently..The old AFC in me tends to get really insecure and paranoid when I have feelings for a girl.


Today I went to her place and watched a movie with her.

Tried kino escalating a bit.

Lots and lots of touching and cuddling, her resting her head on my chest and kissing on the cheeks, she was playing with my hands all the time etc. She initiated the touching 9 times out of 10.

At some point she was leaning on me I tried to give her a kiss on the cheek and she kind of pulled back.

I was like ''that was just a kiss on the cheek''..

I think it's fair though I wouldn't feel good about the situation if I kissed her while she had a boyfriend, I want to make her mine. It sounds like she has a line she's not gonna cross.

But still I can tell she likes me, and even though I doubted that she might be doing this with other guys I don't think she is, she has alot of guy friends but they have girlfriends, she even told me she spoke with her best guy friends about me and her, she showed him pictures and stuff. I think she's an honest person and she just likes hanging around with her friends, that's all.

I really think this girl honestly digs me and doesn't know what to do. She told me she didn't trust me today haha. But she also tells me that she likes me so.

You think she's an honest person while she's cuddling with you even though she has a boyfriend? You may want to think again.

Personally I agree with the others. She's enjoying your attention while refusing to cross a line with you. Think about it....she shot down your attempt at kissing her on the cheek. What do you think she's gonna do when you go for a real kiss, or even more than that?

If I were you, I'd tell her straight up that while you enjoy hanging out with her, you're not interested in being a curiosity on the side to cure her boredom with the boyfriend. Make it clear that you're not looking for a pal and that you don't want to waste either one of your time. Regardless of what her reaction is, the important thing is that you're asserting yourself and refusing to be strung along, which I think is exactly what she's doing with you.

Good luck.

Well I agree with the first part, but some thing in my heart leds me to believe that this might be a special occasion and I don't think that happens all the time.

And btw she didn't really shut down my attempt at a cheek kiss, I gave her one on the cheek and she liked it but the second time I lifted her chin up to give her another and she might have thought I was going for a real kiss.

I'm really lost right now, I really like this girl and I know it sounds really bad and I kinda agree with you all, but what do I do if I want to believe in this?


This is basically what I'm thinking.

She had a boyfriend, but they're not doing great and thinking about breaking up but it's been 3 years so she's obviously attached.

We meet and start to hang out, she sees me has a friend, she has lots of them and she doesnt care about them.

We hang out more she likes me alot, she feels guilty for doing so but she can't help it.


This is my cool movie scenario of all this.


PS : I just left her a couple of hours ago and she texts me some random stuff and then says she missed me soooo much.

Well obviously I don't know the chemistry the two of you have together.

The only thing I'll add is, no matter what, I'd recognize this situation for the risky one it potentially is, and not to put all your eggs in that basket. After all, she's not.

Good luck.

Listen man, when you like someone it's really easy to think that she's the one, and the she's honest and all that great stuff.


But honestly? She has a boyfriend and shes fooling around with you. You think she's not gonna do the same shit to you? I've been in your situation more times than I'm proud of, a girl whose honest and worth anything wouldn't be doing what she is.

I agree with this.

Also you think she's honest and really likes you. Imagine when your in her BF's shoes in the future, think she may not contemplate going with someone else "she likes" to watch a movie and cuddle up. Is that acceptable when your in a LTR? No, I don't think so!

Tread softly man.

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I'm with the majority on this one brother. I can only explain it as simple as this:

Just LISTEN TO THE CHORUS!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ny0uQQq3bw

Have other girlfriends - flirt with them in front of her (don't overflirt - it's possible to do and it will show that you're just trying too hard).


You sound like you don't know what you want from this girl. Assuming you don't want to be her boyfriend and you just want to share a good time with her, wait for a time when she looks at you seductively and tell her "Stop, just stop. I'm attracted to you but I don't want to ruin our friendship - and I don't know if you can keep a secret."
This helps to let her know your intentions.
Talk to other girls - if she initiates any contact with you it is on your terms.

It's funny cuz you know obviously if I made a thread on here it's because I'm doubting her motives but still.

I told my sister about this story..and she basically told me that the guy she's engaged with right now, have a house with and planning to have kids with, well they were in the EXACT same situation that I am in..

Which just shows, that every situation is different, I've learnt never to expect. Make things happen yourself if anything, or atleast try.

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Yeah I'm pretty cold headed about this whole thing right now.

I'll continue gaming girls like I usually do but stll keeping an eye on her.

She called me tonite, and when I answered the call dropped.

I called back, no answer.

She calls back a minute after, basically saying that she wanted to prove herself a point, that I would call back..I thought that was pretty weird/creepy, she told me yesterday over the phone that she realised I NEVER called her even once, she always does haha. She was going to the club with her boyfriend tonight , she had basically forgot about it and the way she was talking it was like she didn't really wanna go. I was at a party with a bunch of people.

She texted me at 1 am saying hey hun I hope ure having fun I had a dull time im going to sleep..then following up a few minutes later saying ''this should be cuddle time''..

I only saw the texts after 15-20 minutes and replied a short ''I am thanks, sleep well xxx''