Im getting to the point where this anxiety thats holding me back from starting conversations with beautiful women is PISSING ME THE F OFF and am gonna go out there and chat to them all even if they kick me in the bollox and tell me to f off!! Does this mean Im finally getting over it or am I just gettin angry? I mean what the f is there to lose- just ego and yoy get over it by the next day so what the f.

Hit the nail on the head dude, just keep doing it. Approach anxiety is mainly a fear of rejection anyway. You keep doing it and you'll become numb.

Good Luck!

I'm always anxious about opening. But it doesn't stop me. In fact, at the very moment I open, I start enjoying the energy, which is running through my body because of this anxiety. The pressure makes it exciting, that is what helps me stay in the moment, it reminds me vegetatively every second not to think just do it. And when I feel I'm in and this anxiety is gone then all this energy just gathers and forms a rocket to send my state all the way up to the moon. It's beatiful every time I do it. There are some ways of trying to defeat your AA. Some choose getting rejected a billion times thus becoming immune. Some choose building great confidence so they would not be anxious at all. I choose enjoying it and using it to my advantage. I suggest you trying these 'methods' and experience which is the most effective for you.

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When I'm out and I'm "not feeling it," I play a game I like to call Lets See How Fast I Can Get Blown Out.

There are many different versions of this game, but basically I just act like a dick to women i have absolutely no interest in, by committing acts such as but not limited to: Grinding on Fat Chicks, or yelling "HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY" at every woman that walks by. I also booty dance every girl I can on the dance floor.

This is fucked up, but if your target is ugly enough, hot stuck up girls will let their bitch shield down to approach you so they can express how funny and fucking awesome you are.

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I tried on facebook as a practise 'GET YOUR F---- KNICKERS OFF ILE BE ROUND IN HALF AN HOUR' as a bit of fun instead of all the usuall indirect stuff - thinking id get lots of shit- but they loved it! didnt get one negative responce just eg'your welcome but its a long way to ireland' and 'dont think much of your chat up lines lol' wtf? Also dont know if this is relevant to anyone but this describes me to a T:-

Why "Nice Guys" are often such LOSERS
You hear it all the time: "He was such a NICE Guy, and she's such a Heartless Bitch for dumping him."
I get letters from self-professed Nice Guys, complaining that women must WANT to be treated like shit, because THEY, the "Nice Guy" have failed repeatedly in relationships. This is akin to the false logic that "Whales are mammals. Whales live in the sea. Therefore, all mammals live in the sea."
If you have one bad relationship after another, the only common denominator is YOU. Think about it.
What's wrong with Nice Guys? The biggest problem is that most Nice Guys (tm) are hideously insecure. They are so anxious to be liked and loved that they do things for other people to gain acceptance and attention, rather than for the simply pleasure of giving. You never know if a Nice Guy really likes you for who you are, or if he has glommed onto you out of desperation because you actually paid some kind of attention to him.
Nice Guys exude insecurity -- a big red target for the predators of the world. There are women out there who are "users" -- just looking for a sucker to take advantage of. Users home-in on "Nice Guys", stroke their egos, take them for a ride, add a notch to their belts, and move on. It's no wonder so many Nice Guys complain about women being horrible, when the so often the kind of woman that gets attracted to them is the lowest form of life...
Self-confident, caring, decent-hearted women find "Nice Guys" to be too clingy, self-abasing, and insecure.
Nice Guys go overboard. They bring roses to a "lets get together for coffee" date. They try to buy her affections with presents and fancy things. They think they know about romance, but their timing is all wrong, and they either come-on too strong, too hard and too fast, OR, they are so shy and unassertive, that they hang around pretending to be "friends", in the hope that somehow, someway, they will get the courage up to ask her out for a "date".
They are so desperate to please that they put aside their own needs, and place the object of their desire on a pedestal. Instead of appreciating her, they worship her. We are only human, and pedestals are narrow, confining places to be -- not to mention the fact that we tend to fall off of them.
They cling to her, and want to be "one" with her for fear that if she is out of sight, she may disappear or become attracted to someone else. A Nice Guy often has trouble with emotional intimacy, because he believes that if she learns about the REAL person inside, she will no longer love him.
Nice Guys are always asking HER to make the decisions. They think it's being equitable, but it puts an unfair burden of responsibility on her, and gives him the opportunity to blame her if the decision was an unwise one.
Nice Guys rarely speak up when something bothers them, and rarely state clearly what it is they want, need and expect. They fear that any kind of conflict might spell the end of the relationship. Instead of comprimising and negotiating, they repeatedly "give in". When she doesn't appreciate their sacrifice, they will complain that, "Everything I did, I did for her.", as if this somehow elevates them to the status of martyrs. A woman doesn't want a martyr. She wants an equal, caring, adult partner.
Nice Guys think that they will never meet anyone as special as she is. They use their adoration as a foundation for claiming that "no one will ever love her as much as I do." Instead of being a profound statement of their devotion, this is a subtle, but nasty insult. It is akin to saying to her: "You are a difficult person, and only *I* can ever truly love you, so be thankful I'm here."
The nice guy -needs- to believe that he is the best person for the object of his desires, because otherwise his insecurities will overrun him with jealousies and fear. The truth of the matter is that there are many people out there who can be a good match for her. We rarely stop loving people we truly care about. Even if we no longer continue the relationship, the feelings will continue... But love isn't mutually exclusive. We can (and do) love many people in our lives, and romantic love is really no different. Though he may love her immensely, there will likely be other people who have loved her just as much in her past, and will love her just as much in the future. The irony of it all is: "Who would want to go out with someone who was inherintly unlovable anyways?"
More than loving the woman in his life, a Nice Guy NEEDS her. "She is my Life, my only source of happiness..." YECH! What kind of a burden is that to place on her? That SHE has to be responsible for YOUR happiness? Get a grip!
Another mistake Nice Guys make is to go after "hard luck" cases. They deliberately pick women with neuroses, problems, and personality disorders, because Nice Guys are "helpers". A Nice Guy thinks that by "helping" this woman, it will make him a better, more lovable person. He thinks it will give him a sense of accomplishment, and that she will appreciate and love him more, for all his efforts and sacrifice. He is usually disappointed by the results.
This ultimately boils down to the fact that Nice Guys don't like themselves. Is it any wonder women don't like them? In order to truly love someone else, you must first love yourself. Too often Nice Guys mistake obsession for "love".
Get this Guys: INSECURITY ISN'T SEXY. IT'S A TURNOFF.
You don't have to be an ego-inflated, arrogant jerk. You just have to LIKE yourself. You have to know what you want out of life, and go after it. Only then will you be attractive to the kind of woman with whom a long-term relationship is possible.
Not mine of course but couldnt be more accurate.

Oh thank God I'm over that Nice Guy thing. A year ago(after reading MM) at the moment I realised what a jerk I used to be, I didn't know what to do, cry, or laugh at myself. I found it the easiest problem of all to overcome. It was just simply social programming and seeing how Mystery Method works and experiencing it just instantly ereased it. Now I have other problems which will be harder and will take more practise to beat. And I bet after I'm done with these the hardest ones will come. Of course this would be the same once I find and experience the solution the problem is solved for ever but it won't be easy finding it But guess what Life is nothing but a big challenge. And I really love challenges.

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Hi,

I'm new to this forum, but I'm not new to the game, and have overcome quite a lot of obstacles over the years, just like the one you are talking about.

Let me give you my take on that. The problem with trying to fight your AA is that you are ignoring what your unconscious is trying to tell you. When we feel fear, this is there for a reason. The reason is that some (and probably most) o us have very deeply stuck unconscious patterns when it comes to dealing with women. We might have experienced some traumas in the past, or have been badly programmed by our society. So, every time we try to approach, our patterns come up and sabotage us from achieving real success. This is why many guys take YEARS to get to a point where they are satisfied with their progress. But there is good news: it should not be that hard. The way to go is actually to erase those patterns first before pushing hard to get over AA (or any other issue). There are very powerful tools out there that help you do that. My favorite so far is EFT.

The problem with pushing through AA and becoming numb is that by doing that you REPRESS all your emotions, which leads to more problem in the long term. I did the mistake in the past of really pushing it over the top, which resulted in me hurting myself, and it took me a while to recover from that. But then again, I'm glad I did it, since it gave me the knowledge that I have now and I can help guys to achieve the same kind of success!

Ivan.

Hey, I know I'm new and but try to hear me out.
I too had/have the same problem. I still get anxiety attacks when I talk to girls, but now I can talk to girls, just not at the comfort level I would like to be at. What my solution for the beginning steps is exercise and physical appearance. What I would advise is about 30 minutes of jump roping or jogging around the neighborhood and wear more vibrant colors like teal or red. The addition of those two will without a doubt bring up your confidence level. Hopefully this is helpful with your Anxiety Attacks.