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 Post subject: LR: Time is the obstacle
PostPosted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:55 am 
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I had a day 2 and a day 3 with a tall (yes, taller than me) fit blonde girl with massive breasts that MIGHT each be as big as my head. I shall refer to her as HBTall.

I number-closed her at another chick's birthday party. I was already sleeping with the birthday girl, but I had to keep the ball rolling, you know! You only live once.

I had the day 2 planned out well - we started off at a coffee shop and bounced to some other places. We even went to the theater to watch a movie.

Now, most PUAs will say something like "a movie is always a terrible date idea," but there is in fact a way to make it work well. Movies give you an opportunity to share several emotional states (pick a comedy; laughs = positive state). It's almost like bouncing to several places to achieve the same result. You just have to stand out from the rest of the chodes she's been with in the past and the traditional basics work as excellent justification for the attraction she feels. I stand out by fully and unapologetically expressing my personality. I was leading the entire time with a strong frame:

"Now, I usually don't do movie dates, but there is this one movie that I absolutely want to see. Let's go see it." Say that confidently and you'll see what I mean by a strong leading frame.

Guess what? I paid for her movie ticket, and even paid for her food when we ate later on. I framed it the right way, though. "The thing I hate about paying for girls is that sometimes it makes them feel like they owe me something. I'm going to pay for your ticket, but don't feel like you owe me anything." Just to add more measures so that I didn't sound like the proverbial "nice guy" who's needy and desperate, I said that in a tone that almost made me sound like an ass. I guess that adds somewhat of a push/pull feel to it.

Throughout the day 2 I constantly teased her, had a C&F attitude, used kino consistently, and sprinkled a few routines here and there sparingly (of course I did the cube because I love it to death). I had every logistic planned out. I planned on using my Tarot cards as plausible deniability to pull her back to my place. In the theater, I kino escalated and was making out with her by the time the credits rolled in.

Here's something new: this was the first time I heavily experimented with Vin DiCarlo's "Objection Game" material. In our conversations, I told stories that indirectly demonstrated that I'm not the type of guy to kiss and tell. Objection Game is based on the theory that women crave sex but are forced to repress their desires due to consequences that society bestows upon them. The theory says that if you remove these perceived consequences, the path to the full-close can fully open even without building attraction. I'm pretty sure I played pretty solid attraction game, anyway, though.

As soon as we got into my room, I turned on my "mood" music playlist and told her to close the door. "Fuck the Tarot cards," I said as I thew her onto the bed, making out with her more passionately than before. I escalated into some good foreplay, then hit LMR. "I usually don't hook up this early," she tells me. Judging by her innocent personality, the stories she has told me of what she's been through, and her age (she's 18, the same young age as me), I believe her. However, the PUA is the exception to the rule, right? I acknowledge what she says and show her that I understand, but I still escalate to see how far she really wants to go. I eat her out, but that's as far as we get that night. She wants to preserve her self-image of someone who isn't a slut. Something tells me I haven't played solid Objection Game, and I'm right. I find out that I still need to work on some of my Objection Game after talking to another Vin DiCarlo student about this.

Here's where the title of this thread becomes relevant. A couple days afterward, I get surgery for my loose-jointed arm. Immediately after the surgery, I develop acute tonsillitis. I get on tons of meds for both my tonsillitis and shoulder pain. After a while, I start a new antibiotic prescription for my tonsillitis, but it turns out I'm allergic to it! I develop a rash on my entire body. All these health issues forced me into a complete social withdrawal for several weeks. I become worried that the possibility for a day 3 to full-close would go stale.

Surprisingly, after I fully recover, she's still up for meeting up with me again. Looks like my game was solid enough on the day 2 to time bridge again. That's a long-ass time bridge.

On the day 3, I know I have to play catch-up. I feel like we're almost strangers due to the fact that we haven't seen each other in weeks. We met up at the coffee shop again, and coincidentally I know one of the girls working behind the counter (ALMOST hooked up with her before), and two of the girls sitting at a table (one of which is another hot blonde I've kiss-closed and more). Since I'm tight with the girl behind the counter, my drink was free. Sweet. I actually arrive earlier than HBTall, but I'm talking to all three of the girls there already and it works as social proof when I introduce them to HBTall when she arrives. It was an unnecessary DHV, but a good bonus nonetheless.

To make up for lost time, I multi-threaded like a MADMAN. It was getting difficult to catch up with myself when I was opening a shit-ton of new threads while closing some of them as I went along. I found sanity by tying several of the threads together to make them relate to each other. I exposed some embarrassing vulnerabilities that I wouldn't disclose on an online forum (lol) to build more rapport with her. I guess the overall theme ended up becoming South Park somehow. It turns out she never saw the South Park movie. Fortunately, I have it on my laptop. Plausible deniability, check.

We bounce to the park, The Cheesecake Factory, a Scientology building (she mentioned that someone tried converting her and I became curious about their "free stress tests," but they were closed lol), a book store, and then my place. After watching South Park together on my bed, I put on some Nine Inch Nails and we eventually found ourselves "closer to god."

She told me that she liked it when I pulled her hair. "I know," I responded.


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Great post. Really wish I would've read this before the movie date. I like the couple lines about deflecting the nice guy image with "I don't usually pay for girls etc"

I'll keep this in mind for the future.

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"I exposed some embarrassing vulnerabilities that I wouldn't disclose on an online forum (lol) to build more rapport with her. "

What did you say? "Mine doesn't work"?
lol jk


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gd stuff

can you explain multi threading though.. never had a good explanation of it

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can you explain multi threading though.. never had a good explanation of it
Multi-threading, or multiple threading, is when you start talking about one topic but interrupt yourself by starting to talk about a different topic without reaching any sort of resolution for the previous topic. You do this several times. It creates tension loops and makes the girl think that the two of you have SO MUCH to talk about.


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Multi-threading, or multiple threading, is when you start talking about one topic but interrupt yourself by starting to talk about a different topic without reaching any sort of resolution for the previous topic. You do this several times. It creates tension loops and makes the girl think that the two of you have SO MUCH to talk about.
Does this take some rapport or can you do this directly after an opener?


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Multi-threading, or multiple threading, is when you start talking about one topic but interrupt yourself by starting to talk about a different topic without reaching any sort of resolution for the previous topic. You do this several times. It creates tension loops and makes the girl think that the two of you have SO MUCH to talk about.
Does this take some rapport or can you do this directly after an opener?
It will depend on the scenario, so learn to calibrate that in accordance to the energy levels in your social situations. For example, you can multi-thread earlier like crazy during Night Game but you'll come off as really ADHD if you do that during Day Game.


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So your stacking up on the lay reports now eh?


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Great report, and good job. How natural does this come to you? I only ask becsuse for me, the multi-threading would be a lot of mental work... keeping track of everything while maintaining everything else... you're a pro!


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Objection Game is based on the theory that women crave sex but are forced to repress their desires due to consequences that society bestows upon them.
Could you send me some links to this theory?


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emmmm do you dare post a pic? i dont meant of insult, but its rather a fake website shit and a totally, crap kinda thinggy.. post a pic of yourself and a naked u and her might be sufficient... its kinda a too much of a pic or nvr happens... and please dont post a pic of your dick video and a girl voice at the background like my friendly classmates...


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emmmm do you dare post a pic? i dont meant of insult, but its rather a fake website shit and a totally, crap kinda thinggy.. post a pic of yourself and a naked u and her might be sufficient... its kinda a too much of a pic or nvr happens... and please dont post a pic of your dick video and a girl voice at the background like my friendly classmates...
Oh, sure, I'll just go back in time and take a pic from fucking 2008

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emmmm do you dare post a pic? i dont meant of insult, but its rather a fake website shit and a totally, crap kinda thinggy.. post a pic of yourself and a naked u and her might be sufficient... its kinda a too much of a pic or nvr happens... and please dont post a pic of your dick video and a girl voice at the background like my friendly classmates...
Oh, sure, I'll just go back in time and take a pic from fucking 2008

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You spent a lot of time with her, and yet since it was all planned out so perfectly, it worked out for you.

Very nicely played.

I haven't heard of Objection Theory before, but I've heard it in other words, and it's absolutely right.

If you can remove the "he'll think I'm a slut if I have sex with him" stuff, and present yourself as a guy who is above all DISCREET and knows how the Secret Society works, you're golden.

Well done Chief!

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Always insightful.

Could you elaborate on what did you do wrong on the Vin DiCarlo's "Objection Game".

Also, could you also write about the women who didnt sleep with you despite you playing your best game - your assessment on what could've gone wrong and why.

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