There was no sex for like a month before all this happens.

Because she got distant from me. Bored of me you know. So if i want sex, i need to get close to her again, which i'm not capable of , knowing what bad person she is.

She didnt said to tell it to me. The guy would have said it too.

I don't want to see her again, never ever. If she comes back, i'll be very hard with her. Very.

Just de-friended her on facebook

not sure if that was a good move

because if she comes back i'll try to use her for sex. maybe now when i defriended her, she will be less likely to come back ? if she will feel offended by that..

Just look at it this way....the more you're finding out, the more reasons you have to know you made the right decision. Shitty situation, sorry man.

But whatever you do, don't contact her to chew her out. This is only going to show her that you're upset, i.e., still emotionally in turmoil with her.

I'm considering of sending her an sms for meeting up tomorrow. Given she said she want a new start - but i didn't heard her anymore for about 3 days - i would send her

"tonight 8 PM sharp my house. If you're not there, no new start ever, and i'm gone. Bye"

Mind that i don't consider myself starting something over with her; no way. No emotions, no involvment. Just her body. I just want to give her a bit alcohol and fuck her; and some hot company to sleep with.

On the one hand she will probably feel in power since i contact her again, On the other hand she has no other choice than going if she doesnt want to lose me - also as a "friend" (which she has few). So it is an ultimatum. It shows she can't fool me anymore.

If she responds Yes, i just fuck her if possible, if i see it's not going to work i throw her out.

If she responds to alter the time or the place - i say its over. Take or leave, she should adapt to me.

If she doesn't respond or doesn't come over, well than it's very clear of course, lol. And at least there's no doubt whatsoever anymore for coming back, i just cancel everything from her.

IF she comes over, i'll try to act VERY SECURE, and demanding. As it should be. No jokes. Also be a bit distant and show her she's not at all in charge. Like it is her last chance ever.

The chance she will not come over (given the history) exists of course. Or that she comes, but with the intention of leaving and not sleeping together.

Input please. Thanks.

Absolutely not.

Just by sending her that text, you are giving her control again. Breaking up with a girl, telling her you never want to see or talk to her again - and then texting her to come over? What the fuck man, snap out of it.

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I never told her like that.

I already gave her ultimatum before:

Or we try start all over again, or we don't see eachother again and i continue my life. She responded with start over.

But just with two words. Start over.

Little Panda is right man...don't do it.

First off...you shouldn't have unfriended her. I recently read on the forum something like "Put your toys down gently and you may be able to play with them again."

If you want to have her again...stop making such a big deal of it. You want a girl to come back to you?...act like you don't need her to.

It's that simple...move on and pretend like you guys have always just been friends.

I don't want to have her again. I just want her for sex.


I couldn't care less about her as being my GF. No way.

And if she doesnt come, i wouldn't care, rather being happy so i can erase her completely, everywhere. And forget.

Now it's like a fuckin story that ended but also not.. headgames. Tired of it. I want to have it sorted out 100%. If i know it all by playing it bad, it is like it is.

You get girls like that. It makes sense, HB10, probably use to getting whatever she wants. So be the one who doesn't give her what she wants. If you ever want a chance of her chasing you, you turn your back on her. Be the one who makes her have a question mark above her head. Trust me. Read the posts in this blog: They are TRULY AMAZING: http://trustyourlifejourney.blogspot.com/

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I read your stuff PUA Slave. Its good stuff.

Please give me an opinion on whether to send that message. But read the whole story first please.

Tonight i go out hitting other woman.

I don't sit at home. Don't worry about that.

But i don't want to miss the opportunity to use her for sex.

Sounds like you weren't even going out with this girl in the first place...

You fucked up and made some fairly big self awareness and interpersonnal mistakes in the process.

Grow up and stop hating this, look at what it has taught you and use that.

a) You can move on and completely forget about this girl (forget about the sex too).

b) You can tell yourself you're going to completely turn this upside down, take complete control of the relationship, and use her for sex.

Its not going to become anything it wasn't before - ITS OVER!

Clear your head bro, forget about deleting her, harrassing her, using her, etc. BE THE BIGGER MAN! Move on!!!!!!!!! Because option B doesn't exist - its only in your head because you're angry at this girl. Everytime you tell us you will contact her, you seem like a fool. And everytime you do contact her, you are a fool.

This girl will realize you are angry and trying to use her for sex long before you actually manage to do so.

I've learned quite a lot out of this shit



(1) Never tell womans your feelings, unless you are very stable in the relationship (more than 6 months or even longer). Generally, in any kind of relationship there is assymetric information: you don't know what the other thinks of you, and vice verca. As soon as you get them to tell your feelings about them, they take you for granted, and there's some kind of moral hazard reaction going on. In fact, compare it with taking an insurance on your car. A lot of people, just by KNOWING they have an insurance will drive less safe. When the girl KNOWS how you feel, she will take less care of you. And her attention will drop, and like you less.
Thats the first thing i've learnt. Don't tell them what you feel about them in the beginning, never.

(2) Don't be the "perfect boyfriend" who is always available to chat up, who goes to her house to give her a present, whatever. As soon as you are too good, they get bored. If they get bored, it's the beginning of the end.

(3) Make sure you SIGNAL your attention less than she signals HER attention. If she sends 3 messages a day, you should send 2. If she calls you 5 times a week, call her 4 times. If you do not, she is in charge. And not being in charge is not a good sign.

(4) If you DOUBT in the beginning about where it is going to, drop it. If you have the FEELING of this is not going to work, it won't generally work.

(5) Don't get emotionally attached too soon.


Probably all well known for most of you, it was NOT for me. but it NOW.

Keep these as the rules in your relationship and provided it's with any girl with a modicum of worth and the relationship will fail, most likely becuase of the rules you have mentioned.

Swinging to extremes will not fix your problem.