Hey, I have recently started studying pick up strategies, skils, etc, and watched David Deangelo's Man Transformation and Mode One to start off. I have a dilemna and I would really appreciate all of the people who take the time to read my post and give me feedback, suggestions, advice, etc. It is greatly appreciated.

There is this girl I met about 2 weeks ago at a college party that I am currently interested in. I am 22 yrs old and she is 19 yrs old if that makes any difference. Since that time I have made it known to her that I am interested in her, so as to not be placed into the infamous "friend zone" that we all hate. I have walked her home from her work late at night a couple times, and just recently spent the night at her place 2 times, each time consisting of watching a movie, cuddling, hand holding and me giving her a quick massage, her resting her head on my chest, that type of stuff. We have also texted a lot back and forth during this time.

The issue at hand is that I still haven't kissed the girl yet, or made any other moves besides just cuddling, etc. My question is do you think she is interested in me, and what should I do to take this to the next level? I invited her to a concert with her tonight, so I feel this would be the perfect experience to make my move. Thanks for the help. If you want any more details, please ask.

Update: I just texted her about 5 mins ago and she wants to pregame while I chill at her place for a bit before we hit up the concert. I'm leaving in a couple hours.

you say how did you do this, did you actually tell her, as if so that would have been a bad move, as telling her kills all the fun of the chase in her mind. using a push pull technique will keep her guessing, so as to prevent things from going stale. but still keeping you out of the friend zone.

for tonight whats the concert like, is it a sit down and watch event, or will you be able to dance with her? if so try to escalate kino, and if you get 3 IOI's make a move for a kiss. i personally would never use a kiss gambit with someone im interesting in seeing long term. dont be nervous about going for it, even if it hasnt happened yet, as in her mind thats possible just been building up to the kiss that she so desperately wants you to initiate.

Thanks for the reply man. I haven't told her straight out that I like her, but it's obvious the way I flirt with her in person and through texts that I am interested in more than just friends with her. I'm not really sure how the concert is going to be, but its at a club, so small venue. I'm guessing everyone is going to be standing up and going crazy for the most part.

I've gotten clues that she might be interested in me before. One example was when I was negging her about how short she was in a friendly way (she's about 5'3), and I asked what she felt about tall guys. She replied "I would never date a guy shorter than me". At this point I didn't bring up anything about dating, so I think this was an IOI in my opinion. I usually give her a hard time through lots of teasing, but I don't feel its too over the top.

What's the best way to initiate the kiss? I really want this to happen tonight.

like i said dont use a kiss gambit, normally what works well for me, is just when im dancing with her, hold her hips, face to face, and look in her eyes for a few seconds. do a little smile (not so big that it creeps her out) and maybe sweep a little bit of her hair to the side, then lean in mate. im almost positive she wont stop you. and if miraculously she does stop you then she'll regret it, and you can punish her for it.
if at any point your struggling to get into a position to do it, just take her hand and lead her to where you want her. show that your in control mate.

I appreciate the help man. I was thinking something along the lines of saying something like "I've been wanting to do this for awhile now" while I'm looking deep into her eyes. Take a brief pause, then smile like you said, lean in and kiss her lightly. I think kissing at the concert would be hard so it would probably be either before or after the concert. If she does push away or turn her head, I'd probably just try once more at a later time before calling it quits and moving on to a new girl.

mate i seriously wouldnt worry, like you said you've been flirting with her, so there'll be chemistry when your dancing with her. be confident and you'll give off a comfortable vibe

Sounds good man. I'll post an update tomorrow.

Additional advice and input is more than welcome and greatly appreciated. I'm leaving in about 30 mins to go to her place.

I recently came back from the concert, so here's an update. While walking to the parking garage to the concert, I held out my hand for her to hold, to increase kino. She just stood there doing nothing, so I told her in a alpha male way to hold my hand, but she refused. When I asked why she told me that she considers any type of physical contact a sign of intimacy and should be reserved only for couples (e.g. bf/gf). I told her that I've never heard a girl tell me that before and she told me she grew up very religious and her mom is old school and raised her up as such. Even a friendly arm around the back she viewed as uncomfortable. She said I was trying to move way too fast, even though it was only light kino such as trying to hold hands, etc.

She told me she recently broke up from a 3 yr long relationship about a couple months ago, and she was still in the process of recovering from that relationship and that she didn't want any kind of relationship at the moment. She said in the future she would be down for seeing people, and left it at that. It was next to impossible to establish any type of kino, and trust me I tried almost every damn way possible. Its so weird because before she let me massage her, cuddle with her, hold her hand, etc, and know she is getting all sketched out by this.

When I dropped her off at her house after the concert, I gave her a kiss on the cheek and forehead which she didn't mind, but didn't go for a kiss on the lips because I wanted to be respectful. I texted her saying I would've kissed her on the lips if it wasn't for the fact of her current situation. She laughed at that and told me she would've slapped me in the face if I did that, wtf. I repllied with a text asking if she was serious and she said "haha maybe". I didn't know what to make of this. That about sums up the end of the night. Where should I go from here? Advice, tips, suggestions,etc would help out a lot. I feel it ended badly but it wasn't for lack of initiative and trying by my part *sighs*

None of the shit you are doing is Mode One.

Read that book again.

Mode one is about being completely honest and up front about your intentions from the very beginning.

Walking her home and cuddling and shit without kissing is trying to build comfort and rapport without ever risking breaking it by sexually escalating.

Asking her why she wouldn't hold hands with you is GAY AS FUCK. Just fucking take her goddam hand.

But anyway, the girl has told you she's super religious and shit and wants solid commitment. Is that really what you want? If you're on a PUAForum, I somehow doubt it.

If you want to fuck a lot of girls, I would advise you to tell them you think they're cute within 3-5 minutes of an interaction, and make it very clear either with words, but definitely with sexual escalation that you want to fuck them. If they are not down for that, then it's better to find out within a few minutes than wait 2-3 lame-ass dates before they tell you their sexual hangups and their emotional bullshit that'll prevent you two from having a totally natural, open, fun, sexual relationship.

Think of it this way:

If after 5-10 minutes of interacting with a girl, a guy were to come up to her and say "you know, this guy just wants to fuck you right?" and her answer were anything apart from "yeah, I know" then you're DOING IT WRONG.

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Thanks a lot for the reply blondguy. I needed a good kick in the ass, haha. You're right about Mode One. I didn't really apply what the author suggests throughout the book, so its time I go and reread the book again and better apply the suggestions for the future. I am new to all of this and learning a lot from all of your replies and realize that I have made some mistakes along the way, and I accept and learn from them. Addtional replies and suggestions would be awesome. Thanks in advance. I figure she is just playing games with me and I am not the type of guy that stands for being used. I'll probably at least freeze her out and see what happens and let her initiate the next conversation.

yeah mate, just make her realise that your a guy with options and have other women in your life, and she might be the one to come crawling back to you. and if she doesnt, you at least get to have a good time with other people.

Thanks for the comment THaywood. I decided that I won't meet up with her for at least a few days and do text only. In a week its winter break, so I'll have 1 month off without seeing her as well, so I'm sure that will help me out a lot. For now though, I'll just text her from time to time and increase my DHV's with her. If for some reason she doesn't end up liking me, I could care less because I go to a school with around 40,000 people and half of those are girls, and a good portion of them are decent looking