Hi i just got a girls number and i wonder if i should text her before calling asking when is she availble to talk (like when is she not busy).
or should i just call without asking?.

Your going to find that girls have different rules for calling, some do and some don't like a text, Ive found not many girls like having convos through texting or guys that make themself too avalible so perhaps a text like

"Hey I'm busy right now, might call you later and see what your upto."

Normally I would try to add a little humour into it because girls laughing is always a winner, so add in a inside joke into it

"Hey nobody warned me how much of a handfull you are to take out, might buy you a leash! I'm busy right now, might call you later and see what your upto.

Make sure your joke is relevent though ive been caught out a few times where she drags it out of context,

Hope I helped!

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When she gave me her number we were kidding about her bag having human names and she called let's say she called it "joe" so i thought something in the lines of: "Hi, i hope your taking care of joe ;] , anyway hunny* im busy right now so i might be calling you later to see what your up to."

What you say bout that?

yep! or even
hey, I think joe is missing me so you better be taking care of her! anyway hunny im busy right now, i might call you later to see what your up to."

either way you get it, good work!, personally I dont say hunny but if that fits in with your style by all means use it

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one more thing, i didn't say my name and she did write down hers in my phone should i add in the end of the sentence something like "by the way you can call me X (real name) ? or like a nick name "cutie" or something

Ahh this is another aspect where the inside joke comes in handy, because she knows who it is just write your name at the end of the text and it will save her the embarassment of asking:), you can use another joke sure but if you use too many you will come off as a clown

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hmm alredy sent her a message without my name... should i send another one saying " oh and by the way it's X" .. ?

Nope, just sign your name at the bottom of the next one, good luck mate

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My advice: First get an idea of when she's available. If she's got a regular 9 to 5 job, it's a snap - call her about 8 pm, which is after dinner, but not too late. General rules are 7pm for dinner, and don't call after 9pm. Sunday evening is the best day, friday evening and saturday evening are the worst days - if you call then it's like "um... why aren't you out partying?" Pretty much never call at those times. Unless of course you are trying to invite her out to this awesome thing you just realised is on. (These aren't rules, just guidelines, once you understand them you can be more flexible) Week days tend to have "gym" and other after work activities but you just have to call and find out. Otherwise, in conversation, get an idea of when she's available, what days she goes to Uni etc.

Then just call. Never text beforehand.

If you don't have any idea what her lifestyle is like, just call at 8pm on a weekday or sunday night. Start with that.

If it rings out, and it's early days (where you kinda need to set up a day 2 before the spark wears out) then follow the missed call straight away with a simple text "Hey just tried to get a hold of you. Will call later." and call again next evening or day after, if you're busy.

Exception to that is If you've known her for a while and you're just trying to re-ignite things, no big deal if it rings out, no need to follow up with a text if the spark isn't even going yet. Just call like a week later or something, get to other girls in the mean time if she doesn't return call. You don't want to convey an impression that you just suddenly started thinkng about her out of the blue and need to contact her right away

Anyway, back to day 2 girl - if you call again, and it rings out again, send a text asking when is a good time to call. Don't send a single text after that.

The PUA advice leads to a dead end where both of you aren't available for each other. No idea why they keep peddling that shit. What you do is make the first move - then if it's not working, ask her when is good for her. If that doesn't work then she's not interested, move on.

Same applies for setting a date to catch up. If she turns down your offer, don't offer another day, - just ASK he what day works for her. This sends the message - okay I tried, ball is in your court now. Especially if you picked Friday or Saturday (which are date days, and you should) she needs the chance to offer you a non-date day, probably even a quick coffee, nothing big, to just suss out your personality - use that time to make her want more.
If she replies by being vague "Oh I don't know, I'm really busy at work, I'll let you know when I'm free" that my friend is a blow off, and you say your goodbyes and move on to the next girl.

Hi thanks for the reply.

i suppose i shouldn't expact an answer from this text i sent.
when i took her number she said she has a boyfriend and i used the "i got a boy who is my friend too" she laughed and gave me her number.
while she wrote i said were gonna be buddies and if you be nice ill write you a message.

i will call her tonight the only reason i can think of she won't answer is because i didn't use any kino on her.

Okay i called her had a little laugh and then asked her to join me and my friends to a bowling next friday or thusday and she said okay keep me updated.

now the problem is the logistics - the bowling place i told her were gonna go i just called and they closed not long ago so they didn't update the website.
the friends part i can get some friends to come with me whereever, i just don't know if it's the right choice, should i somehow turn this into a date (i mean not come with my friends). i want to take her some place fun - so if bowling is out of question i thought maybe billiard or something.

would love your response guys, thanks.

She said yes to a friend group thing, so do a friend group thing. You always can read her and see if she's up for something else as the night goes on. The way I do this is ask "When do you have to be back by?" and if she says how she's got fuck all on tomorrow, or she's got work but she loves staying out and will just drink energy drink in the morning, then that's a "yes let's do something else, alone" and think of a place that will be open.

The bowling alley closing is not your fault, don't automatically feel like it is. You just organise a new venue or new activity and call her and tell her the news.

well you posted alittle late now

we were on a date/meeting few hours ago in a caffe but i still don't understand why she goes out alone with me while she says she has a boyfriend and she mentioned him once.

anyway in my point of view we had alot of fun i made her qualify her self alot and she was cool.

Some girls call guys they're casually dating boyfriends, but she knows he's really not. Maybe that's the case here?

i don't think so she actually said to me her parents know they are friends and they were angry at her since shes a teen and hes over 21