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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:12 pm 
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So there I was innocently doing my shopping and minding my own business and I made eye contact with this HB8 who was working there and we smiled at each other and we both held it for a good 4-5 seconds. When I was going up to one of those self service things she came over and started helping me (unusual since it's self service and I only had 3 small items) I told her she had a nice smile and she kinda blushed as she was packing stuff for me, I kept telling myself to use Alpha body language. After she helped me pack she walked towards the door in the same direction as me and I remembered the 'You look kinda bored' opener that is apparently good to use on hired guns in shops, from there the conversation went:

Me: Are you new here? I've never seen you before?
HB8: I used to work wednesdays and I've just started doing thursdays
Me: Oh right, so what are you a student then?
HB8: Yeah, I go to **** college.
HB8: So do you live around here then?
Me: Yeah I live just down the road
HB8: Oh so you walked up here?
Me: No I drove up, it's much more fun (It's snowing really bad here at the moment)
HB8: Oh right
Me: Anyway I'll c'ya later
HB8: Ok bye

I could tell this girl liked me but I think the only things I did right were open her in the first place and using Alpha body language.
Did I blow it? I'd love to pick this girl up :/


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:26 pm 
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I know where you're coming from. I used to do the same thing, where I was probing for IOIs before making a move but never recognized whether or not there were any until after the meeting.

She sounds like she was interested, she held strong eye contact, a big IOI, and helped you in a situation where there was no real need for her to help. This was her approaching you, a major buying sign, but hard to read in feild when your basically in disbelief you'd be the one being approached.

When she gives IOIs that quickly, I'd number close and get out of there. Rather than sticking around, leave a little mystery.

You can still pick her up, the buying temperature is hot, but you have to keep your game in top notch. Otherwise you look like an AFC who came crawling back.

Make it seem like she's the one winning you over, use push pull, and you can still pull this off in spades.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:43 pm 
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Thanks man, I'm still trying to get my head around push pull but I'll give it a go! :)
Would it come off smooth if I gave her a business card and told her to text me or should I say 'put your digits in there...' and hand her my phone?


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 02, 2010 11:26 pm 
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I'm a huge fan of handing her the phone, then sending a quick cocky funny text to her. Check the text game thread for ideas.

Make her feel like she's the one winning you over. You're the prize here, she's chasing you. If you ca build tension, then hand over the phone she'll put the number in without giving it another thought.


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Nice, I'll give it a go! :D
Gonna have to brush up on some push pull game first, I got the impression she only works thursdays so that gives me a week.
Thanks again bud, I'll let you know how it goes! ;)


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Just thought, this girl is very likely to give me the full eyesex thing next time I go in there, think I should open with...

'Do you have eyesex with all your customers or do I get special SPAM?'
Obviously I'd only say it if she was by herself ;)


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That would be an opener to use. But as you know, pick up has many many variables that could pop up or not pop up at any given moment. So that opener might not be a possibility. Always have 2 or three simple things to say.

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So, put together a load of material and canned it.
Went 'shopping' again and picked myself up a HB8 (well, I #closed her)
Had to resort to canned material a couple of times but I think I made a good impression - tried a bit of push pull, kino'd 3 times - tried to create a time bridge but she might not be around for it, I managed to #close her and when she pulled me to the back of the store to give her # I said 'yeah, probably won't look good you picking up guys whilst you're working here' ;)

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Lol bro, you did an interview rather than conversation. Read this from one of the PUA forum leaders.








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So, the time when asking too many questions is bad, is when you're asking quick, interview style questions to try and build and maintain rapport and seek commonalities. For example

AFC: Where are you from
HB: Spain
AFC: Oh cool. Uh, what do you do
HB: I'm studying
AFC: Nice. What?
HB: Literature
AFC: Uh huh. What'cha reading at the moment?
HB: Oh, lots of stuff. Listen, I gotta go meet my friend
AFC: Oh ok. Nice talking to you

I'm falling asleep just typing that shit!

The next level above that is at least having something to say about the topic. For example

AFC: Where are you from
HB: Spain
AFC: Oh awesome! I love Spain! I visited Madrid a few years back and had an amazing time! I saw X and Y and Z and it was great!

Now here, congratulations on DHVing, but again, you're not getting anything out of her. As soon as you've finished your Spain story, if she doesn't ask you anything, you're back to another interview question for her again.

The next level is turning questions into statements to get her to qualify herself immediately.

rAFC: You don't seem like you're from around here
HB: Why do you say that?
rAFC: Ah you just seem like you're seeing everything around you for the first time, and are a little confused by it all!
HB: Jaja, oh I see. I'm visiting from Spain actually
rAFC: No way! I love Spain -> DHV story.

the final piece is to tell your DHV story in a way which allows pauses for questions that allow her to open her own threads.

rAFC: No way! I love Spain. I actually stayed with a family there for an exchange programme years ago. It was fun but the family was really strange. Lemme ask you - is it normal in Spain for the men to do NOTHING but watch tv in their underwear whilst the women work, and then cook and clean all day?
HB: Yes / No / It depends -> maybe story of her own
rAFC: Yeah cuz the family dynamic was so weird and I felt really bad for the women of the household who were like saints! Is that what your family was like?
HB: Yes / No / Maybe story
rAFC: Oh ok. Well in my family it's like this...

In this example, I'm immediately getting quite personal info out of her, whilst DHVing about travel and understanding cultural difference and family dynamics. At each point, I give her an opportunity to open a thread of her own, but if she gives a one-word answer, I can just move on with my story. This is how you keep building thread after thread, and have that feeling that you never run out of things to talk about and can tell each other almost anything openly.








Last thing you're doing is relying on her answer to continue the conversation. What ever she answers you then use that to say something else. This guy explains why it's a bad thing.





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You have some good points, but DHV USING STORIES is not necessary. You can DHV in a more affective way through body language, attitude, and confidence-being comfortable with yourself and not letting people walk all over you.

You want to get her to ASK YOU questions. THEN YOU DHV through story telling. If you are asking questions just so you can talk over and over about her answers and how that relates to you, you are going to come off as self-centered. DHV stories are just a means to sell yourself.

Why are you selling yourself to a women who has yet to qualify for you? Seems kind of desperate.

Being a mystery is more attractive than putting yourself out there. You want there to be something for her to figure out, like a puzzle. If you come off like something hard to figure out, the ego will tell itself "Nobody else can figure this guy out but I will be the one to do so."

You have two ways to converse that will reel her in.

Getting her to qualify for you.
Getting her to see if you qualify for her.
Source: search this forum for topic called: lots of questions = interrogation?


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