I ran into a little kink on my boyfrend destruction plan :/ the girl won't txt me or Ansewer my calls should I freak out I know it's because she feels guilty by talkin to me when she got a boyfrend I can't think of a way to get her to hang out without her flaking on me I cant get
her to reply or ansewer my calls should I wait a week or a couple of day an call back help me out I think shes kinda lost intrest I need to do somthing to get it back help me out

I ran into a little kink on my boyfrend destruction plan :/ the girl won't txt me or Ansewer my calls should I freak out I know it's because she feels guilty by talkin to me when she got a boyfrend I can't think of a way to get her to hang out without her flaking on me I cant get
her to reply or ansewer my calls should I wait a week or a couple of day an call back help me out I think shes kinda lost intrest I need to do somthing to get it back help me out

I ran into a little kink on my boyfrend destruction plan :/ the girl won't txt me or Ansewer my calls should I freak out I know it's because she feels guilty by talkin to me when she got a boyfrend I can't think of a way to get her to hang out without her flaking on me I cant get
her to reply or ansewer my calls should I wait a week or a couple of day an call back help me out I think shes kinda lost intrest I need to do somthing to get it back help me out

I have an idea for a boyfriend destroyer, kiss test, kino escalating, instant attraction game.

Background:
I met this girl 6 months ago that fulfills all my criteria for a soul mate. She is very intelligent, great personality, good looking. We share the same interests, she don't drink or smoke and neither do i. She works as a scientist and have recently moved to Sweden, my country after working in England, born and grew up in France. Raised in a Muslim culture but have a modern secular view on religion.

The Problem: After seeing each other about 2-4 times per month, having a great time and interesting fun conversations... Then about 4 months later she dropped the i have a boyfriend, let's just be friends bomb in a email she she sent me. Long story and will post the complete story later in a separate thread.

I have never revealed that I'm starting to fall for her and we have never kissed or had sex. So it has started more like a friendship. But then i started having feelings for her and a think she is curious about me. Last time we went out and when we gave each other a farewell hug, she suddenly hugged me back harder than she used to do before. This was a big IOI for me. It was also before she mailed me telling about her boyfriend.

We have not seen each other in person since she mailed me telling about her BF in the middle of October, but we keep contact by mail and she has a crazy busy schedule at her work.

The thing is... She is having several stressful situations going on right now. She is having issues with her work colleagues that are giving her a hard time, freezing her out, even bordering on bullying. She has undergone cancer surgery SPAM in the last year or two. She has a big hospital bill to pay off causing financial stess. She is in a long distance relationship. She has recently started seeing a shrink one day each week that she needs to fly to London to meet. Which causes more stress since her work week is cut short by 1 day. Not to mention the usual stess of working on her PhD.

Wow this is getting long!

So this is the current situation. I'm in love with an amazing girl that have a boyfriend - Long Distance Relationship. Unless this is just a token barrier she pulls because she just want to be friends.

Challenge:

Getting her attracted to me and destroying her boyfriend!

My Plan:

Since she talks a lot about her life and all the sad, negative stuff that she is going through, this only makes her sad, it makes me sad, creates NO attraction and makes me becoming the "best friend". I want to make her feel happy and doing fun stuff during our few and short meetings.

So finally this is my idea!!!

I'm going to challenge her with a little game that goes like this: Every time she starts talking about negative stuff, she looses and get's "punished" by having to kiss me! So for every time she mentions her problems she owes me 1 kiss. The purpose being to redirect her thoughts toward positive subjects and escaping her sad thoughts even if it's just for the duration she is with me! So it's up to her how much or little she want's to kiss me. Dont like it? Then dont talk negative, focus on the positive! She have the control over this! If i loose and talk negative she "Wins" by removing one "Kiss IOU" if she dont owe me any kisses then she gets a "free card" to talk about something negative.

What do you think? To risky? Am i crazy for even suggesting this to her? Or is this plan genius?

All opinions welcome

[quote]she looses and get's "punished" by having to kiss me![/quote] that's a horrible plan. Kissing should be a pleasure you both enjoy. By that logic sex with you should be torture. Completely wrong frame.

Girls try to keep good men in "Dr. Phil" mode. My solution is to tell them straight up "I'm sorry I'm not Dr. Phil let's talk about something fun/positive like...." Try to keep all convos fun or sexual.

If a girl INSISTS on telling you about her problems and it's serious simply listen, don't try to solve it because you're not her crutch; it'll put you in Dr. Phil zone. Girls don't want you to solve all their problems it ruins their autonomy. Only listen to their problems if you HAVE to. Remember sexy and fun

Me: Can i have your number?
Her: sorry no, i have a boyfriend
Me: im sorry i dont think you understand my question, i asked for you number, not for you to be mine

I'm bumping into this one a lot lately, and i mean a LOT. I would usually go with the "i'm not jealous" response, but i'm thinking of switching it for something else.

I saw this in some movie.

HB: I have a boyfriend.
PUA: and I have a goldfish.

thats it.. smile and move on with your game.. works a 100% of the times.

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I am student of love. by love. for love.

I've heard building a strawman works wonders. The essence is that when they say they have a boyfriend you go off on a tangent on how good they must be, how they must make the girl feel and generally how wonderful being in a relationship must be. You have to make an effort to paint a flawless relationship though, only ever mentioning positive things.

After, she'll start having doubts about her relationship and how successful it is, eventually succumbing to the sexual tension you should have built up.

Of course, you'll have to look elsewhere for someone who's field tested this, I still need to apply the theory to a situation.

I hate boyfriend destroyer game, but I am very good at it. The key is, it takes months (sometimes), if you run enough game, negs, push back, and even disqualification, the girl WILL start liking you. Don't ever mention the BF, or the fact you are friends. Dont give IOI (except once in a blue moon when she has earned it, then take it away) (make her an attention starved puppy) and then the boyfriend will start to notice, get super jealous and bam. A break up. She'll birddog you, but that isnt the end, they'll get back to together at least once, so you go back to what you were doing. At the point the BF will try to assert control and say stuff like: "I don't want you hanging out with other guys and not let me know..blah blah blah" and thats when he has lost her.

ok i met this girl a week ago, i got her email address, messaged each other for 24 hours, then i added her on facebook, then she gave me her phone number, all within 2 days.. she works in the same building as me and by some weird coincidence, she lives on the same road as me... so now she's convinced we have so much in common, and then i did the mind reading mystery magic tricks, she loved it... anyway, i invited her to my place for "Tea and cookies", she came over last thursday.. we talked for 4 hours, really enjoyed each other s company, bit of banter, a few negs, she was flirting... then i offered to walk her back to hers (down the road), so i went to her place, she invited me in... gave me a tour of her apartment. we sat and talked for another 2 hours. BUUUT all this time, she actually has a boyfriend. they ve been together for 7 months.. she told me she was off to see her bf (who lives in a different city) for the weekend. she messaged me today to tell me she'd be back in town tomorrow and she asked me how my weekend
was...

i answered:
"Awesome, i flew up to the moon.. it s nice this time of the year...u should check it out sometime..."

she replied:
"I must say, ive never been to the moon, but you might have sold it to me lol xo"

i said:
"when you get back tomorrow, we have to start preparing you for our trip to the moon together lolz xx"

that s where i left it today... i need some help to set up our second date... and I need some advice on getting rid of the boyfriend who she clearly seems not to be bothered with if she's choosing to flirt and hang out with me.

how do i get some kino escalation quick? how do i manage to kiss close this girl knowing damn well that the boyfriend is in the back of her mind?

I Need some quick routines ... stuff i should say or do to get a close... thanks Guys

Theres some really old posts out there by juggler on bf destroying. It had some pretty good insight, it's not about actually destroying her boyfriend, but more about building him up to be the perfect guy for her, which in turn makes her think about all of his bad traits. You can ask about and learn about the bf then pull out lines like "i can already see you two living together happily married in the burbs with a white picket fence" or "you both sound perfect for eachother" both lines being bait for her to talk badly about him. If you negatively talk about her bf she'll immediately get defensive.

hope this helps

I have a situation id like some expertise on:

Ive been recently gaming a girl from college(with a boyfriend) i have some classes with.

With some DHV, ignoring the bf, and a touch of NLP she has slipped back to my place a few times, but after says she feels bad for cheating on her boyfriend. she slept with me a couple more times but then the same boyfriend thing.

she continues to spend time with me at school and wants to set me up with friends....all opinions welcome on this one

here you go
It is a very familiar situation that every
guy like you encounters. Here you
meet a beautiful and striking girl with
whom you are head over heels
interested in. But here is the catch—
she is attached! She already has a steady boyfriend
which poses as a great hindrance for
you to advance on her. So, what must
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The fact that she feels guilty and she is trying to set you up with her friends instead, means she might actually like and care for the guy shes in a relationship with!

Instead of manipulating her with dhv etc.. (actually lowering your value imo) just be your own man, yet be brutally honest, tell her you're keen on her and she can make up her mind from there. If she chooses her man, you be a man, be happy for her and move on. She will love you for it and if things ever did fall apart with her current partner, I doubt she would forget you. Be the better man through genuine actions, not the manipulative creep.