My sister got me to pick her up some Wendy's today when I came up with a great idea inspired by BF Skinner. I ordered her meal, and got myself a water. Instead of stealing a few fries on the way home, I stuck to the water. This got me thinking. If people who have fast food addictions can go to a fast food place and simply order a water(demonstrating self control) can this by an effective way to stop their addiction?

Loving the enthusiasm. However there is a slight floor when associating it with Skinners experiments.

If someone did that for, shall we say, 6 months. The issue would be that they may associate a sip of water with fast food, thus causing a glass of water at home to make them want fast food. Similar to Pavlovian Conditioning.

What may be better could be to use a short sharp pain everytime someone touches fast food.

Interesting idea though, keep them coming!

I use water in a weird way. I LOVE fast food. It's my vice. So if I'm with my mates shopping and we end up at McDonalds or wherever, I buy a bottle of water and drink it all as fast as I can. The reason being that it fills me up and makes me feel a little sick so that I cant eat. That way I'm not munching fast food.

Good point that the water may make them want fast food!

Never even thought of that!

Its a sensory thing, same thing with taste. Sugar subsititues sound great until your body taste the sugar on your tongue your body produces the insulin needed to break down said sugar that never enters the body causing the person to have cravings and actually over eat, in essence negating the value of substituting the sugar in the first place.

Go for healthier substitutes, if you do it right you won't feel you're sacrificing taste for health. Instead of a mcdonalds burger get a soybean burger. Instead of red meat eat just white meats (chicken, fish, turkey) cut the usual cheese and go for one with less salt. Cut all the grease you can from your diet, eat fruits and vegetables daily, even if you start just with an apple a day, but eventually improve from there. Go for salads, etc etc.

Why would you cut out red meat? Red meat 2-3 times a week! It's the only way to go!!!

Bean burger?!?!? Swearing at me!!! Have a burger as a red meat portion.

Have the Chicken Breast burger as well as a beef burger!

Don't starve yourself, or eat like a rabbit on salad alone.

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Red meat is not healthy...... at all.

Venison is red meat and very healthy... so is grass feed free range no hormone/antibiotic cow/bison.

It is also not just the meat but how its preparred is you over cooked the meat its bioavailbilty will be compromised.

Also berning meat (ie grill marks and other forms over cooking certain types of frying) are carcinogenic, you've essential alter the celluar sturture of the food in a way that is unhealthy.

Buffalo is red meat! It's super low fat, crazy high good quality protein, and just the sexiest meat I've ever eaten in my life!!! How is that unhealthy?!

I'm about 90% sure Bison (as mentioned above) and Buffalo are the same thing, but I'm English and lazy, so it's not common knowledge over here, and I can't be bothered checking. But I'm open for correction on that if I'm wrong.

Red meat is a REAL MANS MEAT! It's just amazing!!! Never remove it fully from your diet!!!


A quick note on red meat, if you're into bodybuilding, you'll need 2 portions of red meat a week, 3 at the most. This is because it's the only proper way to absorb creatine. I've already posted a load of stuff about creatine on the MaxiMuscle Cyclone post (I'm lazy and computer illiterate, so I'm not posting a link) so before anyone starts posting their 2 cents about how supplements can give you that and you don't need red meat, read that post reply first.

A final note on red meat: Different protein sources hold different amounts of the essential amino acids. You need to combine all complete protein sources in a week to get a better amino acid spectrum. At least 2-3 different protein types a day, like Egg White, Chicken, Turkey, Milk, Protein Shake, Cottage Cheese, Red Meat, etc.
I don't know why this works, as logically your body only needs certain amounts of certain amino acids, and once they are absorbed and used the rest will be rejected. So in theory the idea is BS! But the practice of it reaps great rewards! I was stunned by the difference!!! If you don't believe me, try it for a month.

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This truly sucks!!!