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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2010 2:01 pm 
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Him: Are you confident enough to accept a genuine compliment?
Me: Always!
Him: Great! Me too! You go first.
Me: (laugh) Well I haven't heard this one before, so I guess I'll have to compliment your creativity.
Him: (laugh) Well, I'll have to say that somehow you've managed to make even the dress you're wearing now look good.

We talked for a little while, and he closed with:

Him: Anyway, I was just on my way out. This place is pretty dead, if you give me your number, I'll show you a better one next week.

Had I not been on vacation at the time, I would have given him my number.

What I liked:
- it was cute and witty
- he did not end up giving me a full on compliment.. had he said something like "you're hot", it would not have had the same effect.
- he got me doubting my favorite dress
- he kept the conversation short
- by saying he's leaving and that "this place is pretty dead" he got me thinking I wasn't enough to get him to stay
- he gave me a motive to give him my number


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I like it. I'll be field testing this over the next week. Thanks!

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Really awesome one though! I really like it, props for that guy.


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Roz,
I see the verbal mechanics that you described in play here. I love it that you noticed the affect that they had on you, for it seems like you are very perceptive--an attractive quality in you.
I would have to say that this man was very creative and interesting from the CONTENT of what he was saying. I am interested in your opinion on how was his DELIVERY. I find it (like most do) that HOW you convey your point is much more important than WHAT you actually say. So, describe his body language and what you read from those sub-communications? I'm curious to know if it was the CONTENT or his MANNERISMS (e.g., his confident, humor, gaze, etc.) that got you interested.

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Roz,
I just love it that a female can partake in the PUA forum. It is another perspective that I highly value in this community. I have even had conversations with girls who learn about PUA because they want to know what men can do to seduce them. To them, knowledge is power, and I highly respect that.
I'm just curious about one more thing, do you think there is anything that this man could have done to get your number and more importantly taken you out on a date. I am talking about this in the context that you put it, that is, that you were going on vacation and could not go out with him soon. Basically, is there a way that he could have intrigued you to the point that you would have considered going out with him as soon as you were available?

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Agree with the above! Ace having this perspective, will defiantly be testing this one.

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That was pretty much bang-on. And I can bet the dude didn't feel one bit sad for not getting the number.

Thanks for sharing!

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Cool one there!


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I am interested in your opinion on how was his DELIVERY. I find it (like most do) that HOW you convey your point is much more important than WHAT you actually say. So, describe his body language and what you read from those sub-communications? I'm curious to know if it was the CONTENT or his MANNERISMS (e.g., his confident, humor, gaze, etc.) that got you interested.
I agree with you- body language is very important. However, it's harder for me to remember and pick up on. The right body language can work wonders on a girl, but it works on a subconscious level... that said, here's what I do remember:

-The way he started out: He didn't just dive into the question... he came to sit beside me, turned my way, and looked at me a good 10 seconds, and when I raised my eyebrows at him he started to smile a little and said "Are you confident enough....etc"

- At "Great! Me too! You go first." he had this huge grin on his face

- I believe his last line was very well played out: for "Well, I'll have to say that somehow" he looked me up and down, and then at "this dress you're wearing now look good" he touched the sleeve of my dress.

- Overall, he came off as being very confident. The conversation flowed really well, and, most importantly, he didn't look like he was in his head thinking about what to say to me next.

I know this doesn't do him justice, as I'm sure he may have done many other things to get me as enticed as I was, but I just don't remember/ didn't pick up on them.
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I'm just curious about one more thing, do you think there is anything that this man could have done to get your number and more importantly taken you out on a date. I am talking about this in the context that you put it, that is, that you were going on vacation and could not go out with him soon. Basically, is there a way that he could have intrigued you to the point that you would have considered going out with him as soon as you were available?
It really did just come down to bad timing; had he known I was on vacation and that it was my last night, I think he would have played his cards differently. He wanted the date that next week- I think that's why he ended the conversation short: ("Anyway, I was just on my way out. This place is pretty dead, if you give me your number, I'll show you a better one next week"); Had he known ahead of time that I was not a local, I'm sure he would have played towards an fclose, not a #close, in which case I'm sure he would not have been "on his way out".
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And I can bet the dude didn't feel one bit sad for not getting the number.
Right on, he really did play it cool the whole time. I had half a mind to go after him when he left; thankfully though, the other half was still functioning :lol:



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Lol. Okay that'd have been funny :D Would have given him a huge ego boost.

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Roz,
Thanks for taking time out to actually analyze your reactions towards him. I hope it is benefcial to you to know how a man can get you intrigued/seduced. I just notice that so many people think that WHAT you say matters more than HOW you say it. Let's be real, if a chump would have said these exact statements to you, you would not have cared at all. Because of his behaviors, he was able to create in you a desire to chase him. That is powerful stuff.
I do not know what it is about females, but they are not as able as males (i do not mean anything sexist in this at all) to catch certain nuances in interactions--they just let them happen enjoying every moment of it. I mean, it is so funny how easy it is to kino a woman and intrigue her as long as a man can portray attractive behaviors.
When I started pick up, I thought, no I cant do that. Once I noticed that women are comfortable with what I do because I become comfortable doing it, it transformed my mentality towards social interactions.
Like many in this community, I learn PUA because I want to become a better person and be able to attract any woman that I want. I wonder, what are your motives to participating in PUA? I know what motives I would have if I were a women. (PM me if this is personal or whatever lol.)

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sounds good!


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OKEY some AFC imput into this post,Roz it would be nice if you could give a female perspective here.

I feel akward aproaching girls,i did it to about 10 girls in total,i didn't have a good response,onlty the "WTF" look.maybe it's me,i mean of course it's me...but how do girls react to this?just going and talking to them?The afc side is till to strong,i just cant convince myself long enough that there is a chance i will meet and do something with this girl.

Also my antisocial behavior isn't helping,should i just hang around some girls before doing something like this?will this go away or just going for it is the only way?
Thanks for the idea though,maybe one time i will use it,but not in the near future:P


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Let's be real, if a chump would have said these exact statements to you, you would not have cared at all. Because of his behaviors, he was able to create in you a desire to chase him.
Absolutely.
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I wonder, what are your motives to participating in PUA? I know what motives I would have if I were a women. (PM me if this is personal or whatever lol.)
I have a post in the introduction section.
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OKEY some AFC imput into this post,Roz it would be nice if you could give a female perspective here.
PM me your problem with emphasis on the methods you used to approach these girls, and I'll help you out.

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Easily one of the best openers I've heard.

Its clear it was canned and that guy probably uses it everyday... but it doesn't matter as long as it works!

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