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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 7:25 pm 
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Can someone help me make an allround mass routine based with lots of different deadlifts involved..


I really enjoy doing deadlifts but im not sure how to put them into my routine. (stiff legged, standard, romanian, or any other)

It has to be a 3 day a week routine?

Anyone educated enough to help?


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:43 pm 
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This is meant to be a self answering question, so please think about it?

How can you build a balanced physique by doing variations of a single exercise?

It would be like asking someone how to get big legs from just bench pressing. Its not possible.

For just mass you need basic heavy lifts, e.g. squats, deadlifts, bench press, chin ups, military press, bent over rows. Thats all the basics that you will need. Oh and years of dedication.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 10:19 pm 
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Alright know it all...


If your gonna post on something ive written at least make it worth reading. Ive been going to the gym for a year I do have a general understanding.

I just wanted to know if someone knew a routine which incorporated different deadlifts and if this is possible (i've done ones before where standard and stiff legged were done on different days) not a lecture on how i'm wrong and stupid get real boy.


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And ye your shoulders are gonna get really big just by doing military presses.

I just want a routine from someone experienced not a lecture on what you dont know about bodybuilding you complete mug


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Deadlifts are great. Uses every part of your body really, a great mass builder, I do them twice a week, stiff on legs day, Romanian style on back day.

I'd say mix it up. 5 sets of 5, can't go wrong.

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respect chelios im gonna throw those in!


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Chelios do you have any idea of approaching women in a gym in order to game them?

Is it worth it?

There is this hot girl at the gym she works there an always smiles at me when i say hello or whatever, i duno if the manager tells the workers to do so or not haha but ye any advice?


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Chelios do you have any idea of approaching women in a gym in order to game them?

Is it worth it?

There is this hot girl at the gym she works there an always smiles at me when i say hello or whatever, i duno if the manager tells the workers to do so or not haha but ye any advice?
I've done it twice when I started gaming, once successfully and one not. Gym staff have to be happy, for the environment, if your going to try chat her up, do it in-directly, so if she blows you out, you wont look a fool.

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Sorry mate, didn't mean to sound like that much of an ass.

I'm still learning tolerance. I've trained loads of people in the gym and have become increasingly frustrated when they change their routine that was making them grow into a routine that doesn't.

This is what I do:

Day 1. Chest + Triceps
Day 2. Legs + Biceps
Day 3. Back + Shoulders

Use 4 exercises for the large body part, 3 exercises for the small. 4 sets each exercise. Legs exercises do 3 for quads, 3 for hams and 3 for calves. Legs day hurts!

If you want to do deadlifts, put normal dead lifts into back and stiff leg deadlifts into leg day.

It depends on what physique you want to achieve. If you want to be huge then you have to train like a bodybuilder. But say what you want and I'll develop a routine for you, as a way to apologise.

In regards to sarging in the gym, not a clue mate. I go to a hardcore bodybuilding gym! We don't have women training here. I'm one of the smaller guys there and I'm 110kg.


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I'd be happy to add my 0.02$

fuck it

First, Scyth, that's a great shredding routine especially on days 1+3. Second, the amount of exercises, per muscle group, per day is directly related to the body type, how often you work said group and level of aggression you put forth each set.

That said, i just took a 5 1/2 month break from the gym. I went from exactly 195lbs. to 145 lbs. eating regularly just not exercising period. It's been around 1 1/2 months back in the gym and I've not only gained all the weight I lost but am now totaling 207 lbs. 5% body fat. BTW I'm 6'2" with a psycho fast metabolism.

I can tell you first hand that working 2 muscle groups in 1 workout won't show you the fast results your looking for. Try working legs one day, chest another, break day, ect. Its simple, working out results in tearing the muscle fiber in the group, and by only working that one group means all the blood your utilizing(you may know it as a pump) is rushing to the fibers to build and heal. Essentially working out causes muscles to tear and in turn blood to repair and create scar tissue to form larger stronger fibers. By working another muscle group you are actually taking the blood already healing the other muscles and dividing the efficiency.

Mass is all about diet. 85-90% diet to be more exact. EAT EAT EAT. Stop overworking your muscles. Working your chest once a week hard with 5 exercises 5 sets with 8-12 reps each set is OVERWORKING. Relax and eat, sleep and get laid. Muscles don't need once a week workouts to get results at all. I workout my chest hard, but only once every 10-12 days and I get amazing strength and mass gains with it. Once a week workouts along with bad form and improper exercises are the leading causes of plateauing. Practice good form, mix up your exercises at least every 3 months and stop overworking your muscles. Mass=diet.

So mass isn't hard. Try what i do-

3 meals a day breakfast, lunch and dinner. I add a 1-2000 calorie protein shake with each one. I know it sounds hard but the stomach is like anything, it can be trained to do what you need it to do. If your having trouble getting calories, go to costco or a wholesale store and get yourself a bunch of Extra Virgin Olive Oil. Its a very healthy oil, packing a whopping 120-150 calories a TSP and mixing it with a shake you would'nt know it's there.

I workout arms, shoulders, chest, back, core and legs individually seperating repeats with 10-12 days. Most believe lower reps per set means more mass, It's not been proven, but try it and see if it works. 4-8 is low btw.

Workout with some fucking aggression towards something, anger, hate or something thats gonna get your testosterone and focus going. Get some pump up music. The reason why you need this is because your not gonna get weight gains pussyfooting around doing a set of 4 with weight you can rep 10 times like every other skinny fuck in the gym. You want to do a set of 4 with a weight you normally can't put up more than twice. Thats the mentallity you need to bring to the table.

Look up T-Nation, read some bodybuilding magazines and use the internet(duh).

So do your deadlifts on back or leg days, not both, and try not to favor a single exercise just because you like to do it. Work it out once every now and then, mix it up, or else your gonna look like a dinosaur with huge legs and special arms. Trust me, girls would rather have a chicken legged V for vagina douche under their sheets than a dinosaur legged rib cage boxing olsen twin. Trussst meee.

Hopefully if you ever read this dictionary lengthed post, I know I wouldn't, you'll have some questions for me.

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Bub is right about the basic science of growing muscle, tearing fibers, rebuilding etc. So it's good advice.

Different people need different things, but all work along the same basic lines. For example, I'm jealous of Bub because if I don't work chest twice a week it's smaller at the end of the month. Same with my shoulders.

I am most jealous of the 5% bodyfat. A 6pack will be visible at 10.5-11% body fat. So having 5% is almost what pro bodybuilders compete at (2-3%). So that's amazing. Great work Bub.

If you're looking to have a bodybuilder physique, train like a bodybuilder. If you want a more Brad Pitt or George St Pierre physique, then you have to train differently. Decide what look you want to go for and do that.

One word of warning though, be careful of the magazines. They are just there to make money. It's not a proper way to get big. Easiest way to prove that; if you're into bodybuilding you'll probably see some of the bodybuilding DVDs at some point. Please note that's not really how they train. Lifting 350lbs for 10 reps doesn't sell DVDs, but squatting 800lbs for 1 or 2 reps does.

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I have a crazy fast metabolism as well. Not to mention I have high cardio martial arts 3x a week, and cycle 16 miles a day.

In other words, it's really hard for me to put on weight.

One thing that works really well is once or twice daily shots of extra virgin olive oil (like above poster mentioned). Chase the shot with milk and it's not too bad. 3 seconds for 300 calories.


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