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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 9:22 pm 
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Hey Guys,

First of all, I would like to thank you for taking the interest in reading this post and perhaps, shed some light on the situation I am currently facing.

I met this girl the other day to work (My route usually falls into [Take Train A to Train B to Train C to Train D] Yes I transfer trains a lot). She was sitting by herself in a two seater (I'd say she is a HB9, if that even matters because it is fairly biased scaling a girl from 1-10), so I decided to take the seat next to her. I didn't initiate conversation at all, in fact, I was straight up trying to sleep. About 5-10 minutes into the ride (during Train A), she made a comment to me about her coat becoming too warm due to heat from the train's heater. What did I think about it? No idea why she was telling me this. Anyway, since she made first contact, I decided to follow up with 'So what are you on the train for? Going to work?' And so one thing lead to another, and we talked all the way through Train C (where she went to her stop). Throughout this conversation, I had made her laugh/giggle and disclose personal information about herself such as family, aspirations, job, and insecurities (such as finding a job post internship...*NOTE* She is a year younger than me and is currently taking an internship. I on otherhand just started the real life working deal). So at the end of the day, I got her phone number and she said to txt her my number when we got out of the subway. I did, but did not receive a reply.

Today, I met her on the train again. We sat together and ended up talking through Train C again. She ended up mentioning (I did not mention at all) that she was sorry for not replying to my text because she busy (or something to that extent). Again, our talk had little to no pause and was fairly productive.

Problem is, how do I know if she is interested in me? And do you think she just gave me her number (after I inquired for it) and keeps talking to me (I ask her questions as well as she asks me about myself) because she is just a nice person or is genuinely interested? I also found out yesterday that she mentioned she had bought something for her boyfriend (but that one sentence was the only time boyfriend was used out of the two and half hours I spent talking with her).

Ok, so to help you find out who she is talking to, here is a little mini bio on myself:

I'm 5' 5''-6'' (she's about 5' 3''). I dress preppy (usually brooks brothers/polo/casual men's clothing) and work full time doing research at a hospital. I recently graduated college and have a athletic build (not huge or overly muscular, but not lanky or skinny). I wear clothing that is tailored to my build (the past 7 months I've been training for Army SF but have had a change of plans).

Thanks for the help and reading through this post. Hope to hear some feedback.


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She has a degree of interest, otherwise she wouldn't of bothered talking to you for that length of time. The fact that she actually initiated the conversation is a big plus, too.

However, it's hard to tell by your story if she's interested sexually or not because you haven't told us about body language or IOI's. Every girl likes to talk, perhaps you're just good to talk to ... then again, perhaps she see's something in you to make her want to get to know you. It's too difficult to tell on the above - is she smiling often, laughing at things you say that aren't funny, playing with her hair when she's looking at you, giving solid eye contact?

Another thing - kino. Have you escalated into this phase? How does she respond? Does she reciprocate?

Start doing these things/taking notice of the above, and the picture will be painted more clearly. If you continue just speaking to her like she's your friend, that's all she will be.

Hope this helps, mate.


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Hey, so I will clarify.

She has many times played with her hair (like the grab and pull down motion), smiles alot, and laughs a fair amount too. Eye contact is always there, although not like she's trying to stare me down.

I have not tried to escalate, first off, because this is on a train in the morning to work, secondly because she claims to have a boyfriend (past or present, I do not know). Today she didn't mention anything about the bf, but who knows? She's def. easy to talk to, and if the conversation starts to die, she always reinitiates. Let me know more feedback. Thanks. Also, how should I Escalate from here?

I've thought about just not sitting down with her until next week and skip 2 days from sitting with her on train (obv. not to make it intentional in front of her face, but to make a chase out of it and not like Im openly saying 'HEYYY I LIKE YOU').


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If you're comfortable with gamin a girl who quite possibly has a boyfriend, then move forward. You have her phone number- why don't you just text her.

Use some callback humor. Maybe a nickname- or something you teased her about.

I like texting this,

"OMG, I just met your twin."

When they respond with whatever, "Where?" "You did?" Whatever,

I say something like, "I feel like a total asshole because I went up to her and everything and started talking to her like I know her. "

With this you can at least get the ball rolling and try to set up a date to get together outside of the subway.

If she's willing to come hang out, chances are she's attracted to you in someway.

Hope that helps.


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yeah, that sounds like the perfect opener for a conversation with this girl, except what if she knows I didnt meet her twin? This humor will be acceptable (for both ends?). Also, do you think the ioi's are there? Thanks.


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sounds to me like shes interested mate.

next time you see her try to build up a bit of kino and then as long as that goes well, and as riott said, its time to try to set up a day 2.

why not suggest getting a drink after work to wind down ?

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I actually don't think I can use the 'I saw your twin' line because her twin is another state a the moment...so that would definitely be a huge lie and obvious one too. Any other lines to suggest a good txt conversation going?

Note: Today I have not seen her on the train nor was I actively seeking her. The idea is to freeze out for a bit, to try to make things not so 'easy' for her. But uh, yeah, would txting her today be a terrible idea or should I wait until later to txt?


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Oh, she has a twin.

The text opener is used with not knowing that the girl has a real life twin, but more or less talking about a different person who looks like her.

I feel like a freeze out is the wrong move.

I feel like those were some indicators she is interested- and one sure way to find out if she's attracted to you is to get her to qualify herself. When a girl qualifies herself to you it means she cares what you think.

However, I feel like to get the ball rolling shoot her a text message that's fun and doesn't ask a lot of her. Something random is what I really like. Then after texting her for a while seed a date.


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That sounds like a good idea, I suppose. Just hear me out on this though.

For the past two days (excluding today), I have been sitting next to this girl on the train and speaking with her for about 1.25 hrs. Doesn't it seem a bit much if I keep doing it everyday (almost like actively seeking her out), wont it push her away and make her seem like this game is not much fun for her (on her end that is)?

Idea for text? Is if I say 'OMG you wouldn't believe what I saw today at Walmart. Some guy who just bought this new pair of golf clubs just walked right into the glass sliding door!" or can you suggest something better or more appropriate? Thanks.


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If you enjoy each others company, it isn't an issue.

That text sounds fine to me. However, I'd just stick with, "OMG, You wouldn't believe what I saw at walmart today!"

Bait her in- that's why when you she texts back "What?"
You have whatever you're going to say next.


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Hey guys,
Just wanted to keep you updated on everything.

I saw her today @ Train A junction to Train B. I talked to her first and we proceeded to have our usual conversation until she left the train. Right before she left, I had asked her if she would up for some coffee since I said I had to do some shopping in the area that she is working in. She said she wasn't sure when she would be getting out of work, so couldn't say for sure. She said she'd text me and let me know. I told her I would call her when I get out of work, and she should let me know from there.

Ideas on this?


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STATUS UPDATE:

I gave her a text instead a little before I left work stating:

'Hey [Name], Ill be getting out of work at [so and so time], and if you're still up for coffee let me know. If not, no worries, another time.

She responded to me a few hrs later saying that she couldn't because she was going to have dinner with her mother (parents are split).

I was pretty frustrated at this point, but when I got back on the train home, as I was walking down one of the cars, I noticed she was there and she poked me. And we ended up talking the whole way back. She really wasn't ditching me (I'm like 99% positive) and she even started telling me about her work day and that she was getting off at a different stop today and how she messed up something at work etc.

Thoughts on the situation thus far?


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Dude, you´re in the friend zone now. Escalate! When you talk to her, leave gaps of silence but hold eye contact, you´ll raise the sexual tension. Also talk about other chicks and conquests to her, do whatever to raise tension. Then you can even start to make out with her in the train if you do it right.

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