Hi fellow PUAs. I'm brand new to the pickup community and have been learning pickup for the past month or two. I've been doing alot of reading of Neil's Strauss's works. I typically do day game but yesterday was my first night game.

Here's my story & sticking points:
My friend's birthday was yesterday, so us and his friends all went out to the club (I rarely go clubbing). I really wanted to try to get over my approach anxiety with women so I approached 2 two sets of women. It took me a few minutes for the first set because I was with my friends across from the set. After a few minutes, I approached and asked their opinion on "Do girls or guys lie more." They gave me the answer and just stared at me. I blanked out and told them thanks and went back to the table.

Same thing happened to my next set, keeping in mind to use the 3 second rule. Busting out my cell-phone, I pretended that a friend of my texted me. Then I opened with the line "If a guy has old pics and letters of his ex under his bed and his girlfriend finds out, is it okay for her to break up with him?" They told me a direct no, and just stared at me. I tried negging one of them by saying she blinked alot, but nothing happened. So i ejected from the set.

After returning to my friends, a girl in the group gave me lots of IOIs and asked me if I wanted to dance, but I told her no. With more flirting, I slowly became more interested in her. We carpooled so we were able to talk to each other for a while. At the end of the day, we returned back to my friends house. I knew she wanted my number, but for some reason, I couldn't number close.

Here are my sticking points:
1.) How do I get continue the conversation after opening? I couldn't build any attraction at all and sets didn't seem to be interested.
2.) Is it a good idea to have danced with her? The reason I said no was because I didn't want to jump through her hoops and lower my value.
3.) In my situation, when would be the best time to number close and how would I approach it?

Congrats for going clubbing man, you pushed your comfort zone and look what happened. You met people

Hey, its all about practice, dont be too hard on yourself, atleast you actually walked around and talked to people.
My thoughts;
1) Be curious, think like a 3 y.o. Ask how they know eachother. Why did they come to this club, if they say its good hi-5 them or bump fists. etc. Its all about LISTENING then asking them questions to take their answers deeeper.

2) Hey if you didnt want to you didnt have to. If you have some simple moves I would have though. On the d-floor you can really kick KINO into top gear

3) When you got back to the house you could have gotten it then. Just say something like "hey whats the best way to get in touch with you if we head out again" . Or just hand her you phone and say "put your number in there and i will get in touch if we do this again" or something. Don't treat it like a big deal. Act like you getting your brothers number.

All in all though, you should be feeling pretty good. You went somewhere that isnt in your comfort zone, and you had a good time.

Edit; forgot to add. Those 'who lies more' lines are great, but only use them once the group is opened. If that is your opening, it wont work all the time and u will get the wtf look haha

Thanks for the reply. That is really gonna help me for next time!!!

1) ugh, those are horribly scripted and over-used openers. if you talk about REAL shit you will have REAL conversations.

2) yes, you are thinking too much if you are worrying about lowering your value. the kino will far outweigh any slight DLV. and besides you should always do what YOU WANT to do, don't deny yourself just because it's going along with her.

3) there really isn't any best time to #close, but like new said it's no big deal. often i just go to the add new contact screen on my phone and then hand it to the girl and say "here"

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