guys what is so hard for you to understand ?

Forget about the pickup, i'm just saying that we humans have a way to learn safely and progress both in our mind and changing the world for real

it's hot, what do i do ? i hypnotize myself to think it's not or i invent ac ?
there is a social problem and a celibacy crisis, what do i do ? i hypnotize myself to become a rapist hypnotist monster or i try to engage in changing the society i'm living in ?

Cause here it's like you're telling me you're taking pills that make you high and go out and hallucinate stuff feeling satisfied about it.

So i'm inviting you to think about that : why is there a celibacy crisis nowadays ?
Isn't the social organisation and the way man-woman relationship has to, at some point, fit with the economic and social model a good part of the problem ?

Why hypnotize yourselves and lose energy into something that is no solution ? Why don't you concentrate on what is the root of a problem touching a big population ?

And that is the proof that these guys offering you products around the theme of picking-up don't really care about the fact you're becoming more and more slaves to society, au contraire, you keep thinking you are the problem, it's big money and obedience... jackpot !!!

Seriously guys, why don't we talk anymore about issues like that ?
We used to think and reflect and now just listen to an hypnosis mp3 and go get drunk in a bar then start tweaking language to fool someone about your real value.

And then you come back here and post about masturbating or that you have confidence problem ? Then you were lying outside !!

Lying using what ? nlp/hypnosis

there you go.

so i guess a woman is a rapist because she uses deceptive paints and powders to boost her value.


for real, why arent you guys out there changing broader society instead of looking out for yourself? go tell these women that they should fuck you because these socio-economic norms are WRONG! for reals it works im super serial.


and NLP WORKS! ask every nerd, they all get laid like hefner. these magical words that get you laid by repeating them should be forbidden! they're just too powerful to contain! whats to stop you from running around and using them on everybody and getting laid 24/7?! whats to stop you huh?! with great power comes great responsibility!

way, WAAAAAAAAAAAAY too much credit to nlp.

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i got a word in mind...

let's play

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let's see if you nlp robot can guess a human idea

mikki your reasoning sounds like: layback in life and someday someone will find you! tell me did bill gates just layback in life and just hope that money would find him? no you go out and make your opportunities, you say that you shouldnt use nlp because its brainwashing, whats funny is your brainwashed more by the media then you will ever be by a single person! the politicians brainwash you to believe in their policies, the advertisers brainwash you to buy products.

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i'm not saying that and i'm not talking about that.

What i'm saying is we borrow lot of words from actual technology.
But we don't update our mind like a software would

remember matrix ? when he goes "i know kung-fu" and the other tells him "show me"

show me where ? in a matrix, not in reality. Cause in reality he's still that guy and if he wants to learn kung-fu he has to take the human way to do it.

training, learning from mistakes, body and mind progressing together at their own pace, etc.


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come on guys, given the context you can find it

sadly we arent going to agree on this, i have no ethical or moral problem in using hypnosis or nlp because i dont see a problem with it, let me ask you a question what would be your ideal way to pick up girls (which is why we are here for in the first place)

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crazyoney, see when you're replying you're using an nlp belief
do you at least know what belief it is ?


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come on guys.. it's a pretty human word

what i find amazing about you mikki is the fact your actually on this forum to begin with! you are against hypnosis and nlp i respect that fact i may disagree with it but thats your choice (the fact you call it rape is really laughable), you are against inner game as well, again your choice. then you advocate that the only way in life is to get married and have kids!
so i have to ask the question what are you actually doing here? cos it sounds like your just preaching

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new preachers preach paradise on earth with lot of hb's
while it's all lies, there's no paradise on earth crazyoney

you're asking me for my beliefs while i'm showing you the dangers of a cult

and you know... there's only one truth

what cult is that nlp or the pua community? being honest you cant have one without the other!

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crazyoney, you're talking about preaching
but here is the red pill : everybody is preaching something

im not preaching you are, your preaching that nlp is bad, that inner game is bad that pick up is bad. yet you dont explain yourself is anyone supposed to listen to you when you dont back up your argument.
ive got a feeling youve either done dianetics/scientology read too many david icke books or youre religious.
like i ve said before i ve listened to your argument yet youve not backed up a single claim. and am now really bored of talking about this with you. so i am going to continue doing what i do so well.

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just plug your jihadist website and get it over with.


i dont know where this cult of nlp is, and its pretty sad that it would exist. i think nlp is gay personally but to each his own. im an analytical guy and if there was an nlp method that didnt sound gay or weird and actually had demonstrable success, i would probably use it on women i dont see myself with in the long run.


now since you seem to have these "traditional values", ask yourself this question:

if WOMEN knew how to use NLP and could get any guy they wanted (as if most women need nlp...), do you think they would use it? have you seen the way women dress? there's your fucking answer. heres part 2 of that question: if you KNEW they were using nlp on YOU, would YOU stop them because of your objections here?

heres my answer to that question. if i just wanted a lay, i'd let her keep thinking im some nlp dupe. if i felt she was using nlp out of honest interest, fine. if i wanted more, id call her on it. IGNORANCE IS NEVER AN EXCUSE. what are we actually talking about here anyway? this isnt secret information, you are finding it on a fucking free website. women might be out there discussing how to use NLP on guys right now! not likely, but its possible. ive seen posts talking about "omg openers", so some women obviously know something about canned pickup bullshit. lets say this hypothetical "perfect NLP technique" actually exists, how long do you think it would last? how long until everyone and their mother knows the magic words? that would be the best thing that ever happened if you really hate nlp. it would be dead.

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jihadist... i can see you've been told wrong about that word and also about my religion which, you guessed right, is Islam.
As for a website, yeah i really should give people one when i see how you've been fooled by those who told you about it.
But they're not to be blamed alone, after all you decided to follow them; though as long as you breath you can still change your mind and read what it really is from those who really know about it and not just some haters.

I'll ask for a good website for you. So next time you don't speak from bad sources or lack of knowledge.
to quote you : In the mean time if i can answer a question i will.

now, you seem to be concerned a lot by what the others think or do
who cares what women do, if you catch one doing nlp you tell her that it's wrong.
Since when do we, people, let other people lose their mind ? you see someone doing something bad you tell him.

there is also another mistake you're doing when you talk about that, but before telling you what it is, i have a question : can you make a distinction between a shower and a rainfall ?

Has anyone found the word ?

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now this is very easy

i was being sarcastic.


everybody loses their mind. ever met somebody who just started dating someone? ever see how they act lame and stop going out? and then they break up? was his mind lost or was he in control the whole time? "love" is also losing your mind. do we attack "love"? women cant help that they have the ability to control men, many are aware and exploit it. are they at fault for wanting something and going after it? who is the victim in a situation where both parties get what they want? when a guy comes on here and wallows about how he gets treated like shit by his gf, we dont tell him he needs to sit around and complain about the world. he needs to be a man. if nlp was as good as you think it is, and can actually get girls attracted to you easily, so what if it does. its not like pleading insanity in court. now if they're drunk or on something, thats a different story.

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