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so i no longer have a problem approaching but now im having trouble with keeping them interested.
awesome, i'm at the point as well, feels good to actually take this first step
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i usually just walk up to them, ask if there having a good night, shake hands, my name , their name , how do they all know each other and then try to build something but im really struggling.
i am a newbie to this world, but i think i can point the obvious here and say that you're too formal.
how about an opener?
it's a great training wheel for new people to the game like us, it gets a conversations to start, she tells you her thoughts, you counter her with your opinions and so on.
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i usually have them laugh and stuff but they eventually always wander off lol.
Well, that's a bit too vague, can you spot the reason they leave?
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i think part of the problem is the amount i drink when im out . i stop being cocky and funny, i dont tease or neg and im not looking for ioi's
i suggest you: do not drink, it may give you fake confident but you will get less success (which is extremely important for newbies like us).
again; try the 3 seconds rule and an opener.
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does anyone have any advice on how to get a women to the hooking point quickly is probably what im asking. also should i be using an opinion or situational opener so that the conversation flows better and possibly some routines ( i do styles 5 lies which has had some success)
awesome, you took my advice before i gave it to you!
about the "quick hook point" thing, the fact you're thinking about getting there fast projects the fact that you're on a mission and afraid to fail it.
don't be afraid to fail, you will and it won't feel as bad as you think.
just talk about what's interesting, search this thread in this forum:
conversation topics never stall in conversations again
IT'S AMAZING how good this thread is, and before you know it your conversation "muscle" will grow bigger, stronger and faster!
you will talk without even trying.
i do think it's fair to mention that i'm new to the game and i just "broke" my approach anxiety and now i'm approaching just to get used to it.
Btw, you can have a couple of my openers I made up during my approaches:
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‘Too young to marry’ routine:
“hey, need your opinions on something: I have a friend\cousin\whatever that wants to get married to this girl, they’re madly in love…
But the thing is that he’s 24, isn’t too young for a guy to marry at that age?!”
(they’re talking)
“right! But there is another twist to this story… she’s 21”
(if they’re around that age, they’ll point out how shocking it is)
“I know!!! All right it’s going to knock you guys off, but there’s another plot twist… they’ve known each other for only 3 months!!!”
(they’re talking about how absorbed it is)
END OF ROUTINE.
The ‘Too young to marry’ routine is actually taken from my real life, my cousin just married and he’s only 24.
Another one I’ve got is:
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’The idiot routine’
Hey guys, need your help on something:
You see, I’ve a friend, his name is (Friend’s name), a few days ago he was talking to this girl, thing is that she forgot his name!
Now, he called her an “idiot” in a joking tone, but my other friend, (Friend 2’s name) said he took it too far.
What do you guys think?
I’m not sure if I wrote down the second routine properly but it is quite good once you execute it properly.
obviously: they've been field tested and i think they're quite original, as i made them up my self.
another thing i forgot to mention:
body language!
If you see that they’re not fully interested in you, just point your chest to a 45 degree angle from them, which would look like you only give them some of your attention.
Either way, I know it was a long read, but I think I helped you there.
Have fun and good luck.
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