i've been reading the books and reading the boards here and it just not making any sense.

why would you go up to a girl in a bar/club/pub and ask for an opinion about something that doesn't have to do with anything.

Look man you cant just walk up to a girl and start talking with you have to ask her a question or her possy so it wont seem like your just coming up to her cause you want sex or whatever from her. She must think that your just coming cause you want to chat not cause of her looks.

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Learn from my mistake...If a girl is interested in you and your interested in her, get her number before you get drunk.

yeah that and to make it clearer, think to yourself

1)how would you go up to a girl in a bar and what would you say?
2)how does that differ from every other AFC who's tried that night?
3)shes probably been approached at least 20 times before you've gotten there and she's still by herself

obviously unless you are a stunning individual which alot of people arent, you have to arm yourself with tools to make your way through her shield

if you come off as you are attracted, then you are no different than anyone else

if you come off as a person who seeks nothing more than opinion and then slip your way through her cracks, then you are going somewhere

think about it

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I'd rather go out swinging than strike out looking.
A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste.
What I say when I see her is what I'll say.

I don't think I could possibly word that any better.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

Hey buddy, the game of attraction can't be played logically. Accept it and then use it to your advantage. There's something to be said for rolling back your I.Q. when applying the material, and more impotantly make it fun. Women are more interested in feelings (emotions) than why A + B = C (logic). However... that doesn't mean you should be overly dramatic, still lean back and be cool Find a balance so that an emotional conversation is also rational.

I don't think I "roll back my IQ" at all when I'm sarging. I just like to play it like an actual game and think about it strategically. Anticipate what she will say before she says it and figure out what I need to say, to get her to say what I want, so that I can use my grade A stuff on her.

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"The 'Brick Walls' are there to allow you to prove how badly you want something!" ~ Randy Pausch

~ Rye

ya i guess it does make sense instead of being like every other guy and saying hi i am so and so...what's your name

i guess i am just being too much of a pussy

arrghhh, i really need to get my head together and gain some confidence