I number-closed an HB10.
She showed some IOIs.

I didn't talk to her for about
2 or 3 days. Then she assk me
for my AIM screen name.

I give it to her, and I talk to her
online.

She said she was sad about some
stuff, and she talked to her best
friend about it and said that she
feels better now.

I told her that she needs to relax
and take things easy.

I said: "I'll tell you what. Tomorrow,
you'll be getting a call from me. I'll
meet up with you and we'll get something
to drink. I'll show you what I mean by
'take things easy.' "

she said "I'd like to, but I'm busy tomorrow.
Maybe next weekend?"

I said: "Maybe. If you're lucky : )"


Is this an IOD? Did she reject me, or
do you guys think that she's actually
busy?

I think you're over-thinking it. Usually when a girl says that and is still talking with you otherwise, then it just means that she's busy.

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I hope so lol.

I was thinking that
it might be an IOD
but hopefully she's
still interested.

Thanks, Rye.

Any other comments?

There is the frame of making her work for you now. Where you have her make a time, then you say you are busy then (even if you aren't) then have her say a different time. Accept that one and you have your date.

I'm not sure that is appropriate in this situation though, but it doesn't hurt to know this exists.

first of all is she is an hb10 and she wasnt interested you wouldnt be talking to her

so get that thought completely out of your ming and never think about it again

people arent always free, it may seem like it, but in a reality check, everyone older has jobs, friends, meetings, and other shit to deal with, this because she rejects your first offer doesnt mean you are done for, you dont know what shes doing unless you ask, but then you come across as weird

so make arrangements at a neutral time

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A lifestyle is a terrible thing to waste.
What I say when I see her is what I'll say.

Next time say "do you have a number I can reach you at?" instead. That way she wont turn on ASD(Anti-slut Defense).

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Learn from my mistake...If a girl is interested in you and your interested in her, get her number before you get drunk.

I agree with the previous post. An HB10 isn't going to waste her time calling someone she isn't interested in. At the same time, always asking to go shopping might push you into "shopping buddy" terratory.

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If there's any way I can work in an invite to the mall, that's one of my favorite things to do. I wrote a whole post or two about it:
1-vt8357.html?start=0

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Thanks for all the advice, guys.
That makes sense.

So here's what I'm going to do:

let her set up a time, then I turn
her down.

She'll set up another time and I'll
accept that time.

Nice.
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What if she doesn't set up a second time?

If she says "Oh you can't make it? that sucks!"
And ends the conversation?

At that point, should I just say "I can go the
day after" ?

Instead of having her set up a time you should give her a choice of times that you set up.
I.E. I can't meet you at *blank*, but I could get with you at *blank* or *blank*. Which works better for you.
This way you are making the decisions but are allowing her to have some say in it.

Wow, that's brilliant.

hahaha thanks, bro .

Danimal, that sounds good but it also sounds like she has the power now. Having her make the time forces her to bend her schedule around you. Giving her options means she doesn't have to try and work for you.

While your approach may ensure a date, you still have given her power over you to deny either of those times.

Yeah this does give her some power over the situation, but she already has the power to say no, or not make another time.

I guess my thinking is if you allow her to make up a time it seems that she is the one wih all the power. By limiting her to choices that you have pre-selected you are saying to her hey I'm a busy guy I have other things to do I'll make a little time for you so you can prove that you are woth it, but it will be on my terms not yours.

I don't know... I guess that waiting for her to make a second time seems a little passive to me. Telling her hey I'm only available at these times seems a little more alpha, but I'm just starting out so I could be way off base.[/quote]

That's a tough call. You've got your attempt to be alpha, in which case she can either reply by telling you she isn't available either of those times and then you keep trying to find a time when you can see her and then you end up acting AFC. Or, you have the option of getting her to make the time and her maybe not putting the effort in and just dropping it, or giving her the power. I'd personally just ask her straight up, "When are you available?" Don't try to get her to plan it, just ask when she's free for an afternoon and then when she says something, you can either keep playing games and tell her you're busy and ask for a second time, or if you really are busy ask for a second time, or if you're not busy, I would just say, "Great, I'm free then, so how about you meet me in front of [insert store] in the [instert mall] at [insert time]."

You just got her to tell you a time when she is free and then you laid out the plan, you took control and remained alpha. Then when you meet her there, feel free to show up somewhere between 5-10 minutes late (no later though) and just walk in confidently like you are in charge and hold out your arm for her to put hers through and then keep walking in the direction you were going, towards some interesting store that you can browse in.

Remember, the key to mall game is to browse through several different themed stores, so that you get the feeling of knowing eachother a long time. You don't want to do nothing but clothing stores, or just music stores. Have lunch or some sort of food break so that you can sit down and get that personal feeling you get from eating with someone. And keep it playful and light. Good luck!

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