I have been listening to a lot of Gamblers stuff on using Day Game to fuel night game. I attempted this about a day ago and ended up failing miserably (esp. on this hot girl I really wanted! DAMMIT Mad ). I had some minor kino in some sets, and I stuck mainly to "fluff talk" as Mystery calls it. Would things work better if I used Multi. Level Communication (verbal=0% Sexual. non verbal=100% escalation in a slow,smooth,light manner)?

I could also use a technique from Stealth Attraction where when you move in and whisper to her, you are being all seductive with your voice,eyes, and kino. Then you withdraw and act non-seductive to fool all those around you. Would that work better then multi-level communication? And how could you do this without it looking really weird?

I want to use this but I don't think I can escalate as much in the day as I can at night. Are there considerations I have to take into account or is this just a limiting belief?

Anyone?

Mate you're overthinking this. Try all that weird PUA shit when your game is better. For now, just talk to girls in a normal way. Make them laugh a bit. If it's going real well, kino and close. That's all you need to know.

I tried all of that. It FAILED MISERABLY , they all flaked, hence why I got into this "weird PUA stuff". Can I get someone in here that knows what the hell they are talking about please?

I hear ya! You made me laugh when you called it "weird PUA stuff"!!! lol

But trust me, it's not weird. You're prolly weird, and if they're flaking, I wouldn't doubt you are. But that's fine, cause I'm weird as well!

Good luck, seduction and pua is confusing at first, but the pieces come together.

Keep approaching and go through the relevant section in the forum where you are facing challenges. You will find most of your questions answered and more. And in a few months nothing will be "weird" any more..lol.

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From my experience Daygame requires being more casual. A lot of times I wont really flirt a whole lot or be too aggressive with daygame. I just keep it very casual and friendly.. then close with something like.. "Hey.. lets grab some coffee sometime".

Since with daygame you wont be taking her home right away.. your main goal is just to get her number. Once you have that you can change the terms later and be more sexual.

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I can get #'s and facebooks pretty easily. However they usually don't go anywhere. They either won't accept my friend req. or they won't text back.

Well sometimes girls will give their info just to make you go away or.. sometimes they will flake out later if your texting or phone game is weak.

But are you paying attention to her body language and how she is reacting to you? Good game doesn't guarantee anything.. its just a tool. Do you DHV with these girls? Do you come off needy or try too hard? Do you let her talk?

When I get numbers I usually text them the next day with something like "Hows your day going?" and sometimes I'll text them a few days after I get their number with something like "Tonight?"

A lot of PUA's seem to overlook this.. but its best not to talk a whole lot. Let her talk more than you. Ask lots of questions but don't talk much. It makes you more mysterious and lets her imagination excite her.

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I try not to use DHV's because that's basically saying "like me for this reason", plus you won't have anything to share on the Day2, and it seems like your too much of a show off when you do DHV. Good point though about talking less, I should implement it in my day game.

Dude i'm telling you there's only a few things you have to do to have good day game.
1. Be aloof, always look at the girl with interest, and then no interest, rinse and repeat.
2. Keep strong eyecontact.
3. While she's talking, look into her eyes and start a smile, like you're thinking about something she does. She'll be like "What!?", and you'll say "nothing" with a smile.
4. For the rest just be C&F.
5. Kino should be light, but flirty.

There you go. All you need.

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Sounds like you're not building enough comfort during your interaction. How long are you there for before you n-close? Do you stick around after? Are you getting any IOIs? What are you talking about?

If you just meet a girl for 2-3 minutes, talk about the weather, fbook close and then leave, then she's invested NOTHING in the interaction, you haven't shown yourself to be a high value guy worth knowing, and she will definitely flake, ESPECIALLY if you invite her out on a weekend, when she basically has to spend at least a few hours with you on a night when she probably has lots of other stuff going on and friends to see.

First of all, you have to DHV somehow during your interaction to get her attracted and interested in you. Then you can ask her questions about herself, and then get a natural conversation going. You should try and close after 5-10 minutes of interacting. It's best to have some commonality or reason to see each other again that you can use to justify the close. This is where future projection comes in. For example, you could be talking about how much she likes sushi and ask her if she's been to this new asian fusion place that just opened up. If not, say oh well we gotta go sometime. Bam, now you have a REASON to hang out again. You don't actually have to do that thing, but it helps build momentum towards doing something in the future.

Once you close, a random, maybe funny, text message thrown out there with no expectation of a response will ping her interest and keep you in her mind. I send "omg random I just met your twin!" to every girl I n-close and 99% of the time they get back to me.

Then setting up a low pressure day 2, is best for a weekday evening rather than a weekend. They are far less likely to flake because there's usually less going on on a Tuesday night than on Saturday. Furthermore setting up an after-work drink at 6pm means if things aren't going well you guys can just leave after one and nothing much is lost. If she gets herself dressed up to go on a club night with you and you turn out to be a valueless choad with faggy friends, she's wasted a lot of time and effort and has to find a way to ditch you without making things awkward. Girls hate awkward, and so she'll flake rather than risk it.

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Very good post blondguy.

In regards to the "omg random I just met your twin!" message, is this the same night you n-closed or a couple of days after?

Last paragraph especially is a-grade. Thumbs up to you, good sir.

I totally agree. Daygame is a lot more casual than Club and Bar game. because of this.. most of the usual DHV attempts will come off as creepy or trying too hard.
Blondguy... I think a lot of what you say holds true for nightgame... but I think daygame is a lot more casual. In Bars and clubs women expect men to hit on them and because it happens so much.. you have to DHV to have a chance in hell.

But with daygame.. women are caught off guard because they don't get approached as often by men during the day. So you can have a quick convo.. with some light flirting and close right away.

I usually go with: "I'm late to meet my friends so I've gotta go. Hey.. lets grab a drink sometimes whats your number?"

Its done in such a smooth way that most women see no reason to reject you. Once you have the number you can DHV with your texts and phone game. And of course on day 2.

Daygame is a very different animal.

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