When starting from scratch, it's good to kickstart things with some POF/Craigslist sarging.

Girls you meet on there will fuck you. The key is getting to that meeting. You can use these meetings to work on mid and long game, and women will explain to you every time why they resorted to online methods because guys in real life are so creepy, annoying, etc.

Plus, if you're getting your dick wet on the reg from online biddies, you simply won't NEED sex from IRL girls... which will make you irresistible to them. There's an air of confidence that simply exudes from you if you're actually having sex instead of splooging on your bathroom wall.

My tips: no dick pics, no naked pics, and go for a mix of honest/funny, treat them as an equal and use proper spelling/grammar. Can you imagine how many incoherent and disgusting messages a woman receives in a day if she has an ad up? I've f-closed three women this week without any games, just typing a coherent message, with a clear, clean picture of myself with other people in it.

Another pro tip: they need some assurance that you have a life, your own friends, a job, and your own need for discretion. So you need to subtly prove those things i.e. listing your plans for the weekend, mentioning that you were hanging out at karaoke last week, and you can't believe you're on a dating site.

can you give a report from opening to close on a girl from cl or pof. from my experience cl is all spam or fat untouchable ones. and pof, the girls seem to hard to get and arent willing to keep a convo going.