When is it a good idea to fight?



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:16 pm 
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Reading the Daily Mirror today and a man has been killed by three thugs last Halloween.

The man was walking with his girlfriend back from a party when one of these pieces of scum steals his girlfriend's hat and hits her.

The guy replies with: "I'm no fighter but I won't let you hit my girlfriend" and hits him back. The three guys then beat him down, and one kicks his head as if "taking a penalty".

The man had two choices. Knowing that the git had smacked his girlfriend, he knew that the guy probably wouldn't have had any qualms about doing a 3v1 on him. He could either retaliate and expect to be beaten up pretty badly, or try and escape the situation as quickly as possible.

What would you do? What matters more, defending what is right or defending your life?

I know this isn't massively related to PU but imagine if some guy calls your girlfriend an ugly whore, and you know he's spoiling for a fight. You either let it go, or try and set him right and risk some fisticuffs. Similar situation except he didn't hit her.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 16, 2010 1:45 pm 
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When is it a good idea to fight?
Exactly never.

I am a trained fighter myself and I've seen enough street fighting and violence for a lifetime, thus I refrain from it. Not to mention that you risk getting a major trauma if you're untrained.
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The guy replies with: "I'm no fighter but I won't let you hit my girlfriend" and hits him back. The three guys then beat him down, and one kicks his head as if "taking a penalty".
That is a noble stand, nothing I wouldn't have done on that guy's place. When you have to fight, you have to fight without cowering away.

Tip - if you're fighting against 2+ guys and the odds are against you, fight with NO MERCY. This means breaking noses and teeth, hitting knee joins, groin kicks etc.etc. It's either you or them, the choice is obvious, but beware you might end up in deep shit.

Anyway, this in case you are with a girl, or someone else who is helpless. If you are on your own and there's no one with you - FUCKING RUN!!! The risk ain't worth it if your ego screams "Show those guys who's boss!"

Just my take on things.

Here's a personal story:

I was going back home one night and I got surrounded by 7 guys wanting to beat me up. While they were trying to intimidate me, I was fortunate to quickly identify who their "leader" was. I quickly got real close to that guy, I grabbed his jacket and yelled in his face

"Oh, you're dead faggot! You want me to break your nose or your teeth?"

I grabbed his ears and started twisting them hard, until the pain made him scream.

"I have a better idea, I'll tear off your ears!!!"

The group thought I was insane and ran away.
Never the less, I avoided a really ugly beating...

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3 on one? id probably walk away but in the heat of the moment who knows, no one has fights logically.

and yeah i agree with fixer but on any level, if you CANT get out of a fight, then i use a swing, takedown and just stomp their head in.

eyes, fish hook, BALLS no kicks just straight up grab and twist man.

but Hobbit is right if you dont want a fight, you wont get one. If someone starts on you just say "i dont fight" and walk away. Most people arent gonna fight a guy who says i dont fight, it wont up their 'social value'.

also i bet that guy if he left it, could of taken his girl home and looked after her and gotten some good sex. idiot. if you dont fight, dont take on 3 guys who are actually looking for it.

let your ego go and walk away unless your backed into a corner or something.

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Only fight when you know you can win.


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i think it's a deep question and it depends on what your priorities are in life.

modern man in the western world has very different priorities than men in say... feudal japan. the modern man wants to extend his life and protect his family to a certain extent, but the japanese samurai were more concerned about dying with honor.

so in the hypothetical raised by trixsta, many modern men would rather leive to fight another day. but for men with different priorities in life, dying with honor is paramount. i think a japanese samurai warrior would much rather die protecting his gf than for both to live knowing he retreated.

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I personnaly have very little patience so I may not be a reference, but a friend of mine told me his trick was to look like a fucking psycopath. When a guy looks like he's trying to get in a fight with you, you do something crazy like breaking a beer bottle on your head (OK, if you really can break a bottle on your head, you're probably really strange) and then scream. This is a strong example, but you get the idea :P

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