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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 4:12 am 
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Most of the methods that I have come across have been about gettin a girl and attracting her to the point where she sleeps with you. But I'm looking for a method that helps me find and attract a gf..can anyone recommend a product or method for me?


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 7:30 pm 
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No girl worth going after is going to be your girlfriend if she's not attracted to you. Think about it, what's the difference between the girl that you attract and then sleep with, and the girl that you attract that becomes your 'girlfriend'. A 'girlfriend', in so far as I'm interpreting your use of the word, is a woman with whom you have an exclusive relationship, basically you sleep (or whatever) with her and no other guys do.

For a woman to be interested in the arrangement you seek, she would have to be reasonably sure that you're going to satisfy her needs. Those needs are going to depend on who she is as a person, but in general she has sexual, emotional, and intellectual needs. She's going to look for someone that she is physically attracted to, that makes her feel good, and someone she can communicate with. I bolded the middle part because in my opinion it is the most important element of your relationship with any woman.

Now take a step back and analyze why you're seeking a girlfriend in your sense of the word, but simultaneously thinking that this is somehow separate from attracting someone and then entering into an agreement of exclusivity with her. I can't answer that for you, but I have a suspicion the reason you're looking for someone to enter into an exclusive relationship with you, is because on some level you're not confident that she would stay with you and only you without some additional obligation she's entered into. There really is no difference between how you attract a girl to sleep with, and how you attract a girl to date exclusively, instead the difference is communicating your desire for exclusivity (or her communicating it) and the two of you deciding to give it a shot.

Become the most happy, satisfied, attractive man you can be. As you start walking the path towards this, combined with developing an understanding of how to take advantage of opportunities to meet women, more and more women will be available for you to consider the kind of relationship you're talking about with.


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The game is the same, except you want to focus more on qualification.

Think about the aspects of a girl that you value for relationship material - for me she has to be very intelligent, ambitious, independent, etc. These qualities will be the basis for your qualification questions.

Your qualification should be like the kino escalation ladder. You start with small things, and get more detailed. For example, getting a girl to say she's outgoing - this is simple and easy and most will say they are, then you reward them with kino like the claw whilst saying "ah see I knew you were cool after all!" or something, and move on.

To get qualifiers out of her, you can just ask a question, like "would you say you're an outgoing person?" but more advanced is to tell DHV stories with the values you want to elicit embedded in them. For example, telling a story about a female friend who you really get on with because she's really ambitious and motivated, and you find you generally get on with people who are like that. If she shares this, she will tell you that she's like that and maybe tell a story about her being motivated, for example. Then you can reward with kino and say something like "you know when we first met I wasn't sure if you were just a random party girl, but actually I can see you're a cool person underneath as well" As the conversation gets deeper and the qualification hoops higher, your qualifying her should be more heatfelt. A good idea is always to stick a little IOD after an IOI, especially if it's a big one, so that it doesn't sit in the air awkwardly. So you might say "shame you're still kind of a nerd for liking incubus" or something you guys have been talking about just to take the edge off your compliment.

By using qualification effectively and spending more time on it and in comfort, you can make sure that she also values commitment, family, or whatever else you want FIRST, before sleeping with her. She will also build more of a connection with you, which is a good thing. This is a way to basically subconsciously have a "relationship conversation" without actually having to be a fucking tool and say "I want you to be my girlfriend, let's commit and play house and have a million babies"

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 4:01 am 
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Wow those were some very good responses thank u wagon and blondguy. Wagon, I've been trying to build a happy single life but ever since school started I haven't really had a lot of time to work on my inner game and now I feel like im losing everything I worked so hard on. But i'll keep pushing to keep growing. Blondguy, where can I learn more about this? I'm fairly new to the whole PUA scene and am not too familiar with the keno ladder. Thanks again :)


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