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PostPosted: Fri Oct 15, 2010 3:25 pm 
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firstly i have no idea how to dhv im. im always with a large group of friends and am usually the centre of it so social proof isnt a problem its more like when ive isolated a girl. i can build attracion through negs and kino well but this is one part of my game thats bugging me.

and secondly how importnat is it to dhv ?

any advice is appreciated

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 1:30 pm 
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To DHV, is to show lack of interest in the girl. Making her believe you are not that into her. Crush her strengths, in a way. If she is beautiful, state that you find an adventures girl more attractive then looks etc.

This shows that you are, in a way, to good for her, you are of a higher value.

Do this depending on the situation or set.
The best mindset I put myself in, is to start off by treating her as your "little sister"(only at the start, to DHV).

In a group, I put myself next to the target, but kind of ignores her while I befriend the group. BUT i still establish kino and push her around a bit. Then slowly turn my attention to the target. Just be aware that she has her attention turned to you, and doesn't start talking to any1 else, or walks away.

For example. If she is turning to walk away, pull her back and say:

You: "Hey! where are you going?" (firmly)
She: "erm, to the bar"
You: "ok, lets go" (and pull her with you, be the leader. Do NOT ask "can I come" or something, this puts her in a higher value)

And boom, 1 on 1, DHV done.

If she says something else, like "erm, to the toilet" or something. Just say, "no! lets go to the bar first". Same outcome.

To me DHV is very important, it makes the rest of the game THAT much more effective.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 17, 2010 9:15 pm 
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I think DHV is more than simply showing a lack of interest.

I always bear in mind the three main values that a man should convey (according to Mystery):

- leader of men
- preselected by women
- protector of loved ones

In the attraction phase, you would surely show a lack of interest and that would be a DHV. Once isolated, you can either language the DHV by stories or, and that's the most powerful way, you can SHOW it.

What I always find is a great way to DHV, is to game different girls at the same venue. Don't push it all the way through, just get to know them briefly and leave them with the feeling that things are unfinished between you. What I even do is just state an opener and then walk away when they're hooked.

First of all, this puts you in a great state of mind. Your energy will be high, you'll be confident and you'll have the feeling that everyone in the venue knows you, or have at least noticed you.

If you can take the real target by the hand and walk her through te venue while knodding and/or smiling to girls (and guys, for that matter) and catching eyes all around, that's a fantastic DHV. It show social proof, preselection and leadership.

For example: last week I was at this party and I was trying to find people from the same region as me (we have a very specific accent). Not with a specific goal, just for the sake of it, and as a competition with my wing, who was mocking my accent.

I just opened to girls so easily and it seemed as if I had a purpose.

"Hey, are you from XXX?"
"No, why?"
"Ah too bad. I'm looking for people from XXX and you looked right."

And just walk away with a smile. You can even ask "where are you from?" if calibrated later. This was a great example:

"Where are you from?" (asked in such a way that it seemed like I was genuinely informing where she was from, after all I was looking for people from XXX)

"From AAA, why? Where are you from?"
"Guess."
"Where's that?"

(It might sound stupid, but it was in a different language and it was kinda funny)

And it was such a great opportunity to mock and neg her. I looked at her HB friend and told her why I was laughing, and she started laughing as well. When she explained it to her friend she was really embarrassed. I gave her a hard time and then left the group on a high note.

And I did this all night, and after an hour or two, you really have the feeling that everyone knows you. You can walk around and open the set again really easily. Girls notice that stuff. You're the active, high energy, social guy that everybody knows. It also makes you feel like you're high value, and you walk around confidently. You can talk to an HB10, feeling like you're the one who's at home, who has all his friends among him.

I have experienced this to be a very powerful tool to display high value.


Besides that, you need DHV-stories of course. You can find plenty of great sources on how to build and tell great stories.


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