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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 8:39 pm 
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I know about pua. I know what an IOI is, what a DHV is, openings, kino, 3 second rule, approach anxiety, and everything else. I have being reading about PUA for about 2 years.

After cancelling how many times, I finally went sarging for the first time today. I live in a really really small town where everybody knows everybody else, so I took a trip to the city.

I had everything planned in my head. I had 3 openers. About 20 pre-prepared conversations, gambits and kino routines that Im really comfortable with.

I had everything planned down to the last detail for my first day of sarging. My ultimate goal would be to # close a girl. Should be a peice of cake, hell I read about how easy it is all the time, all you guys do it without even breaking a sweat. And with a full day in the city, opening sets at a rate of 3 or 4 an hour. I should get at least one. Right?

Wrong. I feel so down on myself. I went to the city with how many thousand women and I didnt even open 1 (one that wasnt a hired gun that is)

Why, what happened? Was it approach anxiety? AA was an issue, but thats not what kept me back. I spent how many hours walking around not even able to get eye contact.

3 hours into my sarging I accepted things werent looking very well at all. 4 and a half hours into the sarging, I decided I was probably setting my sights a bit high and remembered a lesson plan I read on here.

Go to a mall. Just smile and say "hi" to everyone who passes. That didnt even work out. I couldnt get eye contact with anyone (not even guys), everyone just stares ahead of them and looks so serious and focused. SO I tried saying "hi" without the eye contact. It just fell onto deaf ears for the most part.

I felt so invisible.

I think Im going to need to peacock or something and get people to look at me. But thats seriously out off my comfort zone, I dont know how well I can handle everyones eyes on me.

I feel so disheartened.


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Ok,

I always found when I went out with the mentality of "I need to get at least one number close" I never get one. So don't put so much pressure on number closes if you are still new to PUA. It's all about small steps, unless if your a natural you won't be suddenly number closing every babe you see. Practice opening and then if you feel you can't carry on get out fast, say you gotta go see a friend or something like that... Just practice opening loads!!! and as you get better you'll learn to transition and in the end number close or K close.

But I see you that you didn't even get any IOI's, so i put this question to you. Were you peacocking? Were you wearing clothes that make you look like you are the boss? You need to look like you're the f*cking boss! You need to visually attract the attention of girls..

Hope this advice helps.

PS. don't feel disheartened, at least you got up off your arse and tried. You made a step in the right direction. You need to learn how to walk before you can run. Keep it up and Good luck!


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PostPosted: Thu Oct 14, 2010 10:19 pm 
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Man! This was an excellent first time!

I started out sarging more than 3 years ago and I have failed so many times that I have lost count. If you call it failing. I dont think that there is any fails, only situations that you can learn from. If I may give you an advice, fight it. Go out again, dont take offence if you fail. Dont let it bother you. Youll get there! Push it until it hurts and then push it some more. Until you get it right, it is worth it! Keep up the good work!

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your description of your game sounded very structured you sound like a social-robot you need inner game and getting rejected is not as bad as people think you MUST get rejected to be avaible to level up i mean you didnt beat super mario bros in your first try mario died many times so you can beat the game push the bottom "reset" approach another set when you get blown out

this was my first approach:
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I have being reading about PUA for about 2 years.

After cancelling how many times, I finally went sarging for the first time today...
Hehe... I know the feeling all too well. The good news is, you will begin getting over the anxiety pretty quick. You just need to keep pushing through that desire to do nothing.

A few quick observations:
1) Peacocking is generally for night-game. This is because in bars and clubs it's COOL to go crazy and not blend in with the rest of the room. You want to stand out, because it makes you seem more sociable and outgoing. During the day, I'd just try wearing dressy-casual clothes (like a nice pair of jeans, a cool t-shirt or sweater). Day game is very much unlike night game.

2) If you go to a mall, it's going to be *easier* to meet and talk to girls who are shopping inside a shop, just looking at stuff. You can walk up next to them and start running your routines... "I'm doing some shopping for my [sister/cousin/ girlfriend] and was wondering..." Or do an observational opener. Just make sure to transition away from the initial opener quickly.

3) Girls sitting alone at book stores are basically begging to be hit on. Here's an idea for an easy approach. Go to your local book store, grab a couple books that look interesting to you, and when you find your target, "accidentally" drop your books a few feet away from her (or just drop the top one). Then you can praise her for being nice for helping you pick them up. Be energetic, carry the conversation at first, then start asking questions and go into listen mode. Pretty much any girl at a book store is going to talk your ear off anyways.

4) If you are feeling super anxious, just imagine that you are some really sociable and confident character from a movie you like. Imagine that person's personality has taken control of you for the duration of your sarge. It may help you get past the initial awkwardness and anxiety. Just a thought...

Hope this helps :) No need to feel discouraged. It just takes time and practice.


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Hey, thanks for all the replies everyone. Just so you all know I will be going out sarging again on wednesday and then again on friday- so I didnt give up in the end :P

In retrospect, I see so many missed opportunities that I didnt realise at the time. At the time EVERY person just seemed to be so serious looking and in a hurry to get somewhere. They looked very very unapproachable.

At the time, I dont know why, but it never occured to me to get off the mainstreets and into a more quiet area. So thats what I'll be doing the next day. THe plan is to look for parks, coffee shops, book shops and then go from there.

So I think that should solve the problem I had on the last trip. Also this time Im going to see about opening 2 and 3 sets. The last day I was working on getting girls alone, mainly because its easier to keep one person entertained. And if its a 2 set Id never be able to seperate them.

Its funny you said that pie grande about it being structured. I am very structured. There is not a chance in hell I would ever go and do something (anything, not just PUA) unless I have very clear instructions to follow. I guess thats what the military does for ya :L


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your description of your game sounded very structured you sound like a social-robot you need inner game and getting rejected is not as bad as people think you MUST get rejected to be avaible to level up i mean you didnt beat super mario bros in your first try mario died many times so you can beat the game push the bottom "reset" approach another set when you get blown out

this was my first approach:
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Hey It was the mans first sarge ever! Cut him some slack!

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your description of your game sounded very structured you sound like a social-robot you need inner game and getting rejected is not as bad as people think you MUST get rejected to be avaible to level up i mean you didnt beat super mario bros in your first try mario died many times so you can beat the game push the bottom "reset" approach another set when you get blown out

this was my first approach:
what-would-you-have-done-if-you-were-in ... highlight=
Hey It was the mans first sarge ever! Cut him some slack!
im not trying to be a douche i know i sound like one but im just pointing out the mistakes. have you seen the movie matrix? remember there is no spoon, AA is all in your head

“All failure is feedback” frame it


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Yeah, I know... But you know there are some things that only does harm when you are a newbie, take a step at a time man. You will get there!

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mate fuck it .

youve done something that the vast majority of men will never do.

tried to improve yourself and adress a problem.

youre main problem seems to be AA which is also something that is killing me.

i asked how to address this problem a while back and the response was great

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keep your head high and just remember " every journey begins with a single step "

dont know why i said that im just in a zen sort off mood lol

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