Hi. Thanks for the advice.

So, I should text her tomorrow and say "let's meet for a coffee" or something ? I do not drink coffee, but I guess I could invite out for a soda or whatever.
You said take her out and do something fun after the coffee date. E.g. like surfing ? I am not sure what kind of activity I should take her out to.
I want to keep her interested.

Sorry, forgot about this thread!

By that I meant something like (especially if you text her within several hours of number closing) "It's been so long! What's news with you?" and even that's too long. My personal favorite is "So tonight then?" or somesuch variant if I'm trying to set something up. I'm a fan of acting like we're in the middle of a conversation when I'm only just starting it. I compare it to a book or movie that drops you in the middle of the action and hooks you that way.

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Ha sorry i worded that wrong. I was saying that rather than asking her on a date, you invite her to really fun things and just hang with her.

Heres what my game plan would be:

Text her and say Hey kangaroo, do you usually grab coffee in the morning?
Shell say yes or no.
Ill say Cool lets meet for a cup of coffee wednesday or friday, whichever works best for you, and have a nice little chat. You game?
-Its good to give her a choice between two days because its less pressure on her and works better.

Just take it from there.

Then once you get the coffee meet up behind you, then you can start asking her to go do things with you.

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Thanks for the advice to all of you.

Spye, what if she says no to coffee in the morning ?
If I meet with her for coffee, what kind of things should I say to her ?
You said I should take her out to do fun things. Would an arcade be a good place ? I am really unsure about what kind of fun things I should take her to.
Should I do things with her that she enjoys ?

I know these questions might be a bit silly, but I am new to all this so I need help.

Okay if she says no just be like, Ok im trying to find a good place to grab some and study. Since your not a coffee person, lets totally grab lunch sometime! Idk im sure you can think somethin baller.

Right now lets talk about your next questions.
First, when you meet for coffee it will only be a 15 to 30 minute meet up. Once your done you say you need to go. Its not a date, just a meet up to chat and get to know her a bit.

Second, because its such a short time, don't worry about what to say. Have fun and make her laugh. Poke fun at her about things and tease, show her you can handle yourself. Only do this a few times. Other than that be sociable and cool.

Third, always have something fun going on in your life. You don't plan things just to take a girl out, you already have things planned because thats what your doing no matter what. Make your life interesting and fun and girls will want to be a part of it. These things could be every weekend you and your buddies go out to eat at this really good place and then go go carting or you have smore sundays around a fire pit with a bunch of people…idk im pullin these outta my ass here. What me and my wing do is every thursday we play blind mans bluff on a playground with all our buddies and they invite lots of girls. (Ha im texting one right now from meeting her at last bind mans bluff). Its a childish game, but loads of people love it and show up! On friday night, we go out to an amazing restaurant and invite different people and different girls. We will then take everyone to an activity. This could be dodgeball, or an arcade even that would be loads of fun! Things you usually did as kids turn out awesome. So with that all said, make your life fun and girls will want to be a part of it!

Fourth, (this goes along with what i said above), no do not plan things around what she will enjoy. Plan fun things that most everyone will enjoy. Don't cater to her, make her be a part of your reality, don't be a part of hers.

Lastly, hope for the best! But if it doesn't work out, a cute girl will walk by you 3 seconds later and you take advantage of it. There are loads of cute girls everywhere and you can just keep doin your thing! When you don't care about the outcome, you usually do things the right way and makes the outcome better.

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Ok, here’s my field report from Friday;
I used to know her but haven’t seen her in years,
She just recently moved to my town and posted so on F/B,
I replied she had to "pay rent and bring me mocha once a week" for living in my town.
She replies "where do I bring your mocha?"
I say "you can bring it to my work"
She says "cool I will" and gives me her number and tells me I better use it, I give her mine.
Friday she text me and says she got busy but it would be better if I came to her house to get my mocha--- I was thinking, what? Does she have a mocha machine at her house? lol
I stop by and after a FEW small negs about here place ( but complimenting her roommates room), some small Kino (checking out her ring on her hand, sitting next to her and watching her response, she ask "so what’s the plan" I say " whatever you want to do" her " I don't know what to do around here"
I was not expecting to go out at all, it just happened!
I ask "well have you seen the ---?" she says "no"
"Well you have to have seen the ---"
"No"
"Well I will take you on a tour of my town then"
We go to a pretty secluded park with a creek that runs thru it I know about, right in the middle of town but nobody goes there. I start a conversation about my favorite places to eat in town; she says "you are making me hungry. Do you want to go get something to eat?" I say sure.
After we eat she says she wants to go get a beer. (I am thinking she means at a bar) I say that sounds good but I have to go change out of my work shoes and grab an allergy pill from my apt. On the way to my apt I stop at a gas station to get a pack of smokes and she comes in to buy some beer (fuck the bar I guess).
We go back to my place and a little more, constant, Kino escalation later we close.
P.S. If you really like her DO NOT CLOSE on the first time out cause I was thinking this girl would have buyer’s remorse in the morning and I wouldn't see much more of her. Long story short, I might have a stalker. Either way first night closes never really work out.

Spye has some good advise up there. As far as the arcade goes. It would be awsome if you "happened" to be close to one when you get coffee. Just make up a reaason to walk by it then act all childish and get excited and tell her you "have to go in". Get a few more dollars in tokens or quaters than you plan on spending. Challenge her to a game, tell her how much you used to love to play it then lose to her(not more than once on purpose), but do not let her know you lost on purpose, it will give her ammo to talk shit and opens up a, cocky funny, bonding thing. Play any game you can that you can HELP each other with to get some kino. Before you leave find a kid that looks bored and doesn't have any tokens or quaters and give him/her all your left overs, she will love it.

Ok. Thanks for the advice timer and spye.

Regarding the arcade, should I ask her if she wants to go there another time, e.g. another day, before I leave the coffee meeting? Could this be a fun thing to do with her ? (not as a date, just hanging out).

I texted her 30 min. ago. Here is the text:

"Hey (her name) ! How are you ? I was wondering if you usually have coffee in the morning ? (my name).

I still have not heard from her, and I am thinking if she think the text was wierd. If she does not reply, should I call her, e.g. tomorrow ?

Depends on how close you are to it. If its like right next door, it would totally be awesome. Yes it would be great to do it as like a spontaneous crazy idea for a hang out. She would love it. If its not nearby at all, heres a good idea.

I will usually bring up things in conversations with girls about what we did as little kids. It opens it up into a very playful SPAM and conversation. So what you could do is start talking about your favorite thing as a kid. She says blah blah and you poke some fun. Then you future pace.

Future pacing is basically talking about your next thing your going to be or should be doing together.
Example: (a million ways of future pacing)

She could say something like "I like to watch romance movies."
You could say, Oh so you have had to see Lady and the Tramp of course.

Then you go into a conversation about things you guys did as kids. You could then go into a bit about going to the arcades and how you never beat this one game, or always wanted the big prize and never got it. Then you could talk about how you and her should go be little kids again and go do it! Who doesnt want to feel little again? You could take her then and there to the arcade if you guys have an hour or two to spare (she will love the sponteniety), or set something up to go do it later.

Anyways just some ideas, hope it helps man!

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Thanks for the advice, spye. Kinda what I was looking for.

I texted her 50 min. ago. Here is the text:

"Hey (her name) ! How are you ? I was wondering if you usually have coffee in the morning ? (my name).

I still have not heard from her, and I am thinking if she thinks the text was wierd. If she does not reply, should I call her, e.g. tomorrow ?

Okay about the text,

You did fine but needed to do some things different. When texting never use their name (well most the time dont). Its what every average guy would do. Use a nickname. Something you remember about her or something random like kangaroo or ninja or eskimo. Also, dont ask them how they are doing. Its a boring uninteresting question and every other average guy would do it. Also the way you worded your question does sound weird as it may cause her to think "why does he want to know if i drink coffee in the mornings?" When using nicknames or teasing, make sure to use emoticons.

Heres what I would have done

Hey kangaroo I usually grab coffee in the morning, how about we grab a cup sometime!

My guess is you will get a positive response and you could then say "great, im able to wednesday and friday (or whatever days) which works best?"

If any of you other guys have better ideas plase say so, also put some tips on how to make sure they wont flake.

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I would not call in the morning after texting her that night. Remember the key to attraction is not showing that you are needy. If she gets a hint of this you will be booted faster than you could say... booted.

Just relax.

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Ok. I thought that it would be better if I did not use a nickname since I do not know her at all. She might think it would be wierd. I tried to follow your example by writing the way I did.

Ok thats fine. But remember, you WANT her to think you are different. You are thinking like an afc, not a pua. I thought it would be wierd to use this stuff in text game, but my text game is pretty friggin good now. In text be assertive and confident, not questionable and sissy.

Heres an example from AN HOUR ago, just to show you. Im not trying to be a dick head and trying to show off, im trying to help ya mate.

Hey kangaroo (its my usuall text opener for now) What sort of trouble have you caused today?

HB: oh hey hun! Uh, not to much! Cause i like to cause trouble in the night, not during that day silly boy!

Oh...my mom warned me about girls like you;)

HB: Oh really? And what did she say about girls like me?

Dont hang out with trouble makers...theyre not in the same league:P

HB: Haha oh, well then I guess we cant ever go to the haunted house together

I guess I will have to make an exception for you because your so cute. Friday work?

HB: Oh well good, Im glad haha and friday should work for me!

Cool buddy cant wait...to see your face as your running out screaming ahaha this should be loads of fun!

HB: Haha im not gonna get that scared! Youre gonna be my sheild from all the scary things, deal!?

Haha yes deal, just dont grab me all over, I dont want to feel like im being takin advantage of

HB: I wont I promise:) But I am allowed to grab your habd in case im super scared right?

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