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PostPosted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 3:17 pm 
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http://www.livescribe.com/cgi-bin/WebOb ... 0TZ507HD56

hidden camera:

http://vimeo.com/15442943
http://vimeo.com/9483927

haloReach is the password

I bought the hidden camera pen at http://www.intelspy.com/72p-959h-pencam.html
It's not high quality but it works. I just put the pen in my shirt pocket. I used a Pulse smartpen for the "hidden mic" sarge I was doing. Me and my friends used to sarge a lot. I have a gf now, so I don't really sarge as much. But, when I do sarge, I just do it for fun.


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that foot locker chick one.. you looked real scripted but your game is tight bro..

like I was scared she would think u were transparent cuz of ur delivery, but I guess ur looks or the way u were dressed compensated enough..

she got attracted, interested, comfortable, invested & It all just like unfolded like magic.. that was nice... clean up that delivery n try it on even higher value girls, i think u got it...

The co-worker tried to give you away lmao... thats how u know its working lmao...

& she showed attachment at the end when telling you wellllll i work hereee

you should have Justified the number to disarm the boyfriend defense... like im getting ur number cuzzzzzzzzzzzz I need to know when Jordan #54353453 comes out... Bad example but you get what i mean..

good work bro.. just work on sounding more natural.


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thanks for the replies

Yes, the stuff I said to her was all planned. Perhaps the hardest part of using routines is to not appear "scripted". However, I really do think that it is all in a person's mind to think that they are going to become caught, because if you are talking about things that the girl wants to talk about anyways, why would she block her own good feelings?

You can't really see it, but I did kino her a couple of times. I touched her above her breast area when she told me where that energy starts at in her body, I said, something like, "So it's starts right here (kino her where she said it starts at)" I also touched hand, arm, and shoulder when I did the hand shake cold read. I also did some sexual stuff, granted it was covert. You didn't hear me say stuff about nude erections, and how you want to take them inside? lol.

If I were to critique myself, I would say to work on my energy, tonality, voice pausing, & review my material better. You all are probably not aware of this, but I totally did horrible on the Snack Quiz and the Tracing Energy in their Body Routine. The real Snack Quiz Routine would have contained a lot more sexual innuendo than what I did and also the energy level of the real Snack Quiz is more playful and fun. I just seemed kind of bored when I ran it. The Tracing Energy Routine has different wording and in it I would have also got the girl to verbally admit that she liked it. I remember one time, when I did the Tracing Energy Routine, I said, "Are you having fun? If you want more, say 'more please' " and she said, "More please!". lol..I love doing that. Whoa..who's your daddy? lol..I guess you can call that compliance. By the way, as far as compliance goes. The tracing energy routine requires a TON of participation on her part.

I'm surprised no one caught Igor Ledochowski's "trackback" technique lol. Basically with trackback you repeat back what they say to you VERBATIM. I did that to her when I asked what she felt most fulfilling about what she did. And, I just listened her to her and repeated back what she said exactly. I love sarging. Game on.


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I like to use routines for maybe the first 10-15 minutes of conversation (the first impression). After that, I dont' really use routines and just multi venue change + kino escalate and that usually gets the job done because my first impression was so good.

There's only a handful of PUAs where I live. We all tried natural style for a little bit, just doing things spontaneously. It didn't work out for none of us. There's one guy that lives down here, he doesn't use routines. He uses a lot of teasing and cocky funny. He doesn't really memorize any material. Last time I hung out with him, he really wasn't that good. He seems really social and dresses nice too. He can get laughter....that's about it.

I remember this one time, it was me, the natural dude from the above paragraph, and one of my friends who used MM. We were day gaming and seeing who could get the most #closes-I beat them both combined. They also both dress better than me. I purposely wore shitty clothes just to see if I could still beat them. Imagine an Asian dude dressed bad, average height and weight, bald...yeah, that's me.

That was a long time ago, my natural friend I heard is a lot better now since he went to Atlanta Lair and learned new shit. But, I guess I'll have to wait and see. We all have recording devices. So, y'all may get a chance to see it too! who knows.

The best PUA down here (by far) uses routines A LOT. He was an instructor for Venusian Arts at one point. I wish I could get his sarges recorded. He is SO freaking good!!! None of us can lay a finger on him. He mocks "natural" game and thinks it's so stupid. He preaches routines, routines, routines. But, yeah, I've seen him do some crazy shit. Like make out with chicks and do a same day lay starting in a grocery store. It looks natural, but it's all routines. So, until you can SHOW me how being spontaneous and minimal use of routines is a better option, I cannot agree with you. From my experience in combination with PUAs that live near me-our combined experience seems to show that routines is the way to go, at least at the beginning. Granted it's only a handful of PUAs that live down here, I'll give you that much.

I think the best way to go about it is to use routines but to make it appear natural.


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I saw the video in the foot locker, and i was wondering, where you trying "The Octoberman Sequence" on that girl? if so, ever had any succes with it? cause i'm thinking of learning it, but dont really think it works:P


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I saw the video in the foot locker, and i was wondering, where you trying "The Octoberman Sequence" on that girl? if so, ever had any succes with it? cause i'm thinking of learning it, but dont really think it works:P
I don't know how to do "The Octoberman Sequence".

If you're referring to that energy thing, I was doing Signal Recognition Technology (SRT) on her. Get Palo Alto Seminar of Ross Jeffries and he explains it real good in there. She interrupted me before I could get her to verbally ratify the feeling. That part where I was bringing the energy closer and closer to her, I was supposed to get her to rate the feeling on a scale of 1-10 (where 10 is high).

Started listening to 60 Years of Challenge's stuff today--interesting. I like the mutual hand caressing technique. I'm gonna add that into my game somewhere. Are there any videos of how to do this technique?? Because, it's hard for me to imagine how it would look like. I can also add in a cross fingers technique when I give her a high five for some more mutual escalation.


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the password doesnt work man!

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Good shit dude, that asian is cute! And the password does work, "haloReach", making sure the R is capitalized.

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I saw the video in the foot locker, and i was wondering, where you trying "The Octoberman Sequence" on that girl? if so, ever had any succes with it? cause i'm thinking of learning it, but dont really think it works:P
You got me curious as to what this is, so I found this video you might find very helpful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sc8PmxoUW0s


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wat-up!

Dude I give you props! i like thoose icebrakers you do before you engage in conversations. so the lines wih you are using are they all from the seminar with ross jeffries or have you been doing some reading aswell?

oh yeah add on facebook, (Adam Daze) planning on putting up videos of my own gotta return the favour ;)

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wat-up!

Dude I give you props! i like thoose icebrakers you do before you engage in conversations. so the lines wih you are using are they all from the seminar with ross jeffries or have you been doing some reading aswell?

oh yeah add on facebook, (Adam Daze) planning on putting up videos of my own gotta return the favour ;)
I use what Ross Jeffries would call a "put-on". From a technical point of view, when I did the put-ons in my videos, I did them incorrectly because first you have to use what he calls a "preopener". I forgot to use them when I was sarging in these vids.

I got the "If u caught someone shoplifting would u turn them in?" from one of Ross Jeffries's videos on youtube. I came up with that put-on in the Foot Locker sarge from trial-and-error and because I just thought it would funny to say that to a girl. If she doesn't think it's funny, whatever..I don't give a shit. I'll sarge the next girl.

From experience, the shoplifter put-on almost always gets the girl to laugh, so then that allows you to use that line that frames that you are screening her ("I'm glad you laughed, because I had to make sure you had a sense of humor before I introduced myself"). I LOVE that line! LOL, I use it after every put-on!

I stole the Handshake Analysis from Vince Kelvin, I think he does it on his youtube video where he's going around #closing women in the daytime with some students. I stole the energy thing from Ross Jeffries (he calls it SRT). I stole the Snack Quiz from Ross Jeffries youtube videos. He does it better though, he uses more sexual innuendo and different snacks. When I tried the Snack Quiz on the foot locker chick, I haven't looked at the Snack Quiz in a long time and I just figured I'd just randomly pick 6 different snacks and try my best to insert some sexual innuendo about them.

There's an even more powerful version of the SRT I found in Vin Di Carlo's "Conversation Cure" around video 8 or 9. IN10SE himself does a live demonstration of Octoberman Sequence in that video on a girl, which I'm probably gonna steal too. :wink: In his version, he actually puts the energy in his hand and gets the girl to feel it as he brushes it up against their arm, chest, hand, etc. It's pretty cool, you should check it out.


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I could only watch a little of the first & second hidden cam link, but I think you were A.) too scripted (the delivery, then again I already knew what you were going to say just from being around here), B.) too pointless (your hand is connected to your elbow, is connected... I know that's a routine but it just didn't seem to really lead anywhere significant) C.) too much interest telegraphed (as someone said above). But, just for doing it, kudos. I think you need to decide where you fall more, with the light or the dark (direct or indirect).

It wasn't bad, it just wasn't as smooth as I'd like it. If you can smooth over those routines a little so they sound more spontaneous, you'll be in pretty good shape.

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I could only watch a little of the first & second hidden cam link, but I think you were A.) too scripted (the delivery, then again I already knew what you were going to say just from being around here), B.) too pointless (your hand is connected to your elbow, is connected... I know that's a routine but it just didn't seem to really lead anywhere significant) C.) too much interest telegraphed (as someone said above). But, just for doing it, kudos. I think you need to decide where you fall more, with the light or the dark (direct or indirect).

It wasn't bad, it just wasn't as smooth as I'd like it. If you can smooth over those routines a little so they sound more spontaneous, you'll be in pretty good shape.
Thanks for checking it out. As far as what side I'm trying to fall into, I'm trying to get about the skill level of here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqYj17qJtWM

His style is more of my type of game. He sounds quite scripted as well, but whatever, it still worked for him. I wanna get that good!!


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Major Props on the audio clip. You may want to censor her number out though. :wink:


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My friend The_Pharoah posted a Lay Report on theattractionforums of my other friend Swift_move. It's SO good, I had to post it here as well. Swift_Move is the guy I was talking about in my earlier posts. This guy is REALLY good. If interested, the thread can be found here: http://www.theattractionforums.com/sout ... post778756

Here is a copy of the LR:

ALR: The King is Back
Adjacent Lay Report ( ALR )
ad·ja·cent   lay re·port 
–noun
1. A document detailing the seduction that a fellow pick-up artist has done

Yes I just created a new acronym, im a trendsetter, talk about me.

This is a great Lesson in Comfort Game

So Swift_Move took me on one of his dates. He likes to do this because sometimes he gets bored with the girl . This report will document how on a second date he had a girl so totally emotionally hooked and attached to him so much that she didnt want him to sleep with other girls, and that she would get on birth control!
Enjoy the ride...

So we end up picking this girl up and doing a few venue changes to incorporate a time distortion. We ended up going to Lowes and then to the Grocery Store because I needed some cheese,crackers,grapes, and wine for a day2 I'm going on tomorrow. When we get back to my place, or as I call it, Club Andrew we hop into the pillow pit which is amazing. I have about 35+ pillows in there on this soft rug, with a 4hose hookah on top of this gold stand that I bought while in Egypt. Both my parents are from Egypt and I have a lot of things specifically placed around the house related to this and other things that girls can see that will DHV me, but more on that another time...

Lets hear about the seduction(Note: He fucked her on the first date, although I was busy in sets that day so I wasnt observing what he was doing to his girl on the first date.)

Swift was on point with his DHV's and cocky funny as usual. I could sense that the girl was being "emotionally tickled" as I called it. The way he was looking at her when he would ask her a question helped as well. Hard to explain over a message board, I'd have to show it in real life. This guy has some really good looks. Its not the common body language things you hear about in workshops, its really specific things that are almost surreal and bring the girl into a romance novel type encounter.

I'd really like to delve into some of these types of intricacies because It is not really talked about in the community. Mystery says that the game is played in comfort yet there is not much information out there. How often do you get information on what to do after you've fucked the girl?

I am writing this for a couple reasons:

1) I know Swift_Move would never write a report, he can barely spell, just look at any of his past postings, no offense bro

2) As I said above this is good fucking shit. As cocky as it may sound I feel whoever reads this is lucky.

Swift_Move was setting a lot of frames in the form of qualification and standards. The concept is rather simple as we all know about qualification, yet so powerful. He tells the girl about how he likes feminine women which comes into play in an interesting punishment reward later on.

He gives her three orgasms and she gets all giddy. Note that I am in the other room when that happened lol but I can hear it obviously, oh yeah, and the floor was wet, Swift said she was a gusher (dawg you better get that carpet cleaned at my house! And this time thats not a joke).

Now, after good sex, a girl is in a very susceptible state. She was running around giggling in her panties and tshirt, jumping up and down grabbing Swifts butt. How cute.

The only way she could be in a more susceptible state is if you put her under hypnosis, or IMMEDIATELY after the orgasm! That was actually when Swift told her she was to get on birth control and she immediately agreed. She was talking about when she could see her family doctor next, the shit was rediculous.

At one point when they come in my room she burped and he tells her to put her head down for twenty seconds. She DOES! Sinn, this is why I wanted you to read this. Swift_Move is a man after your own heart.


So she complies to this HUGE request. She apologies and says she knows he likes feminine women. He tells her its ok, now its in the past, and that she had her punishment, and then he holds her. Yes, I know this sounds crazy, but its all real.

He asks her how much she likes him on a scale from 1 to 10. She says an 8.5. Then she asks him how much he likes her on the scale. He answers a 9. Now pay attention, the reason he says this is so that she could, at a very near time in the future, go up to a 9 because she would feel he did it so its ok to reveal how she really feels. Jediiiii

A little bit later he ends up caressing the girl and holding her and rocking her back and forth. I've done this before and its fucking dynamite! The girls feel completely safe and taken care of and protected when you do this. Its very primal.

What she says right after this is very interesting...

First of all, if you've read the Art of Seduction by Robert Greene, you will know what I'm talking about when I say that Swift is a Rake. That is an important piece of information to know for what im about to say.

She asks if Swift will call her. There was something going on with her nonverbals so he asked her what she meant by that. He knew what she meant but he wanted her to verbalize it. She explained it had more to do with her worrying about him sleeping with other girls. Keep in mind this was the second date he did with her.
The great thing about this is that once someone verbalizes something, it makes it more real. The minute you verbalize something you can't try to hide it or rationalize it away.
Swift_Move is a diabolical scheming genius, and I love it lol.

Oh I have to say this girls ass was handcrafted by the gods themselves. BangBros style all the way.

One thing I like about Swift is that hes an asshole just like me, lol. No but seriously, his game is ON unless hes sleeping. Even on the ride back hes running the strings on this girl. When we were driving her back to her place, he was laying with her in the backseat, with his arms around her, laying back looking up at the sky, and he asked her, in the most romance novel type of voice a human can possibly do:
Swift_Move: "Do you enjoy my life"
HB Amazing Ass: "Yes"
Swift_Move: "Im glad. Welcome."
HB Amazing Ass: "I hope you keep me around.........for a little bit" (I could tell she was trying to calibrate her original needy response because the pause was too long when she added in the 'for a little bit' part)
Swift_Move: "Why wouldn't I? We had an amazing time. Not only did you fuck my brains out, which is a must, we laughed together, we exchanged witty banter, and how could I bore of that so quickly."

This is really great because she is in a very positive emotional state and he is anchoring it to himself and everything around him.
By the way I am driving around in a Lexus so that helps the anchor even more. PARKIN LOT PIMPIN!!!!!!!! I don't advocate cat calling but it actually works in this car. Man im gettin off tangent... alright, I'm back.

Alright folks, thats all for now. Feel free to ask any questions and I'll get back to them when I can. I hope people learned a lot from this and didn't just take it as entertainment. The way I see it is we are all in this to help each other better ourselves, and with all the help people have given me I feel it is only right to give back.

-THE Pharaoh


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