so there is this girl that i'm talking to. she constantly texts me to come over. but before last week i never made a move on her because it was awkward making the first move in my room.
so i invited ehr to a party, and she came alone (big ioi) we were at the party and we stated making out. i had huge social proof there btw. so i took her back to my room after the party, she was a lil drunk and me too. so in the room we started making out and she took her top off and started playing with her big boobs but when it came to the pants... NOTHING. i tried to freeze her out and then i tried again... NOTHING. tried 3 freeze outs. ok so she had to leave and took her back.
she then texts me that she has to take a shower but that she doens't have hot water, and if she can come over. she came we started making out top off, andNOTHING! the pants are not going off. she took a shower, came out of the bathroom wet and without her top on and tried to take the towel off, AND NOTHING!!! tried to turn her on, nothign1 I TRIED but it seems like a can't get thorugh. i made out with her up to 2 hours and no play but blue balls smh. WHAT SHOULD I DO GUYS!!! she clearly likes me but i'm all out of ideas.

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Hi im a bit new to the PUA Community but from what I've read in the books and considering I'am just seventeen and have created pretty good rapports in the past with women but haven't number closed because of my age.

I'd say, maybe try and be a bit cheeky while making out and try feeling her ass if you can. If she retracts, then just make a bit of a joke out of it the fact that you are not successful in the a temptation to take her pants off! Or maybe just ask her why she's being tight about it?

I dunno but I hope this helps. Good Luck

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'Results come from perseverance, determination and hard work.'

Have you actually tried rubbing her before attempting to take off her underwear?

Yeah, I give 'em the ol' ass grab while making out and then move my hand down to the vag. Think of a hook from behind. Hmm. Better yet, don't. Just warm up the area a little before you try and remove the pants.

Another possibility is that it was that time of the month and she didn't want to tell you. This is pretty common.

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Only one thing could cure this: Dance Music.

I'm new to this forum, almost 16 and because of the game, iv gotten laid multiple times, I had the same sticking point for about two weeks. Now, 1 you could have done a freeze out wrong, you want to make her think you don't need to do anything. Then when it gets hot again, you try for it again. Now you could be doing it right, 2 her time of the month, DEFINATE possibility, but you could still get around it. Now, 3 she could think that taking off pants leads right to sex, you need to make her comfortable with you and know that you won't leave her after, mystery method if you don't totally know what I mean, look it up. And a tip you can have is, do the hook thing, play with her butt, then move around to the front have ur hand straight, and up against her spot, slowly push your hand between her legs and out and slowly pick up speed, it's like playing with her through her pants, sheep get really turned on trust me, is there anything I didn't make clear??

A Sticking Point or SP is an issue you CONSISTENTLY run into.

It is NOT a point where you get stuck with ONE SPECIFIC GIRL.

A Sticking Point is: A Sticking Point is NOT: Threads about one specific situation in the Sticking Points board will be subject to locking and maybe even humiliation.