HB10, grinding, number + facebook close, should've kclosed?



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:17 am 
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Hey guys, first post here. It's a bit long but please have a read! Would definately appreciate advice! (For those of you who can't be bothered to read TLDR version at the bottom, although I really think to gain an insight the whole post should be read! Thanks! :) )

So i'm an average PUA, wouldn't even call it that!

I've been reading these forums for a while, some very interesting stuff! Some of it I knew beforehand anyway as just dealing with women. I rely mainly on looks/natural game, without sounding too arrogant! (girls say I look like the guy from Twilight [jacob black?? :s] which is a massive DHV).

I mainly use these forums for openers then carry on the conversation naturally, and for funny/cocky lines since they fit my personality.

So anywhoo, that's me! On with the report...

So I was in a club last night and opened this girl who was giving me good eye contact. I looked back at her and smiled, walked straight over and used an opener i've read on this forum, it went something like "hey you know if you're gonna look at me like that you should at least come over and say hello".

She responded well by laughing if I recall correctly and I just went into introductions/conversation. She wasn't that hot and I asked her if she was with friends, and she pointed to 3/4 girls one of who was a smoking 10! So I said "well I think it's quite rude that you still havn't introduced me..." and so she did...

2 of my wingmen are here, they know who my target is, as they notice me getting introduced to the friends they come over, I introduce them all, and they start conversation with my initial opened target and her friends, leaving me in a 1 on 1 with the HB10...

So anyway I chat and banter with the girl well. Negging is how I roll with all girls, it's part of my personality, and I could tell she liked it because she's the kinda girl who gets hit on all the time being a 10 and all... I could tell she was interested by her body language and how the conversation kept rolling, and I thought it would be best to number close her and then come back to her later on in the night for a kclose. So I simply said "Hey i've gotta get back to my friends now [they were now at the bar getting drinks whilst the friends were in a circle of conversation] so why don't you give me your number so I can find you later?"

She complied quite well, she seemed happy, and then tested me by saying "What's my name?!" and I ALMOST forgot but then I remembered! Hahaha. We both cheered playfully and I hugged her/lifted her up haha! Said goodbye, and continued the night gaming/opening other sets...

Later on I see her in the smoking area, she makes eye contact and smiles, but she's talking to these 2 other guys and is with her friends with her back against the railing, making it hard for me to approach. So I thought best to leave it for the time being and open some sets demonstrating some value because I know she'd probably look over from time to time... So I opened a couple then just chilled with my friend who was having a smoke... She eventually finishes with whatever she was doing and walks past me, smiles, acknowledges me and starts feeling my chest with one hand (lol) and says how she's going to the ballroom... It wasn't really an invite and I wasn't going to follow her so I simply said "Cool, i'll catch you in there later on" so she left...

15 minutes later I wandered into the ballroom dancefloor having a good time, when I spot her from a distance... I walk into a closer proximity when she spots me and she smiles/points and holds her hand out. I took it, gave her a little twirl and we started dancing... She proceeded to grind etc, and put my hand on her leg... This is when I KNOW I should've closed because she turned to face me a few times for 5-10 seconds which is when I should've just said something like "What would be the first thing you'd say after I kissed you" etc etc, but I didn't, I don't know why, fear? Stupid reason I know... Who knows really...

Anyway in the space of 5minutes whilst I was dancing with her, her friend leans in and tells her something, and she told me that her friend wanted to go to the bathroom and for some air or something like that? And I don't think she was like / her friend was trying to cockblock because when she saw her starting to dance with me she gave her friend a thumbs up and a cheeky smile (approval I presume?). So then we stopped dancing and she went, and I told her to come find me later, and she simply smiled (im not sure she heard me, it was quite loud)

She then texts me 20 minutes later saying she has to go, but gives me her full name and tells me to add her on Facebook. I was annoyed because I should have kclosed but I thought it's ok since she seems quite interested surely? And that kclose/fclose shouldn't be hard on a day2 of some kind...

Anywhoo, I add her the next day (today) and see her online Facebook chat. I'm quite good at online game I like to think and just opened the conversation very playfully saying "loserrrrrrrrrr". She responded with "Hello! :) i've already bunked today i'm stressing lol". I assume she's referencing this to a lecture at University? (She goes to one near London). I respond normally with a bit of banter, I can't quite remember what it said, nothing too harsh, just friendly playful conversation...

And here's whats worried me... she didn't reply. And her facebook chat status stayed to online... But her chat kept going online/offline (facebook chat bugs sometimes) but on my screen it showed up as the message had gone through... I was a bit daunted by this, so 30minutes later as she was still online I sent another message (after my reply) saying "does it always take you 30minutes to reply to messages then? :p" and still nothing... she stayed online for another 15minutes, and her online/offline status was still fluctuatiing, chat bugged perhaps? I don't think so to be honest.

So now i'm confused, I have this girls number, her facebook, yet she didn't continue the conversation, even though she told me to add her? I was the one who started it too, I then also sent a message which in my eyes was needy but I thought i'd get away with it since she seemed so keen?! Now i'm unsure what to do...

She came online later on in the evening too for about an hour (this was 6hours or so after I spoke to her) and didn't start a conversation...I had invited her to this exclusive London club who i'm promoting for on Monday and she seemed quite keen and wanted to come to that so i'm thinking of texting her tomorrrow evening or something (thats leaving it around 24 hours) to see if she's still up for that.

Saying something like "So will you be gracing me with your presence on Monday night at Mahiki then eh? I think you should, it might make me consider actually forgiving you for skanking me horrificly on fbchat x" something along those lines? If she doesn't reply then tbh in my eyes it's game over, time to move on... If she does great she's coming, if not attempt to arrange a day2 constructing the message so that she can't reject it with the excuse that she's busy i.e. leaving the date open/up to her. And if she then ignores/rejects that message then it's game over, time to go, if she agrees, great, done!

Those are my thoughts on the situation so far, not quite sure what else I could do...?

Sorry it's a bit of a lengthy read but I thought best feedback would come from adding more detail. And she really is a pure 10, pushing it as far as the hottest girl in the club that night. But I disarmed her bitch shield quite well and made her all playful and bubbly for the hot girl she was. Although she doesn't seem that pretentious, quite outgoing and nice so hmm...

Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

TLDR: HB10, number closed her, grinds on me on the dancefloor, she told me to add her on fb, start convo, she replies, send another message, she doesnt reply, stays online chat, what to do next?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:39 am 
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Don't follow the lead for too long. She has your number and fb. Youve messaged her, she knows your interested, and if she is she'll get back to you. Worst thign comes to worst, text her next weekend, hey you have to come to the club with me, i need you as arm candy or something playful like that, of course followed with an lol or haha. Dont sweat bro, keep working your game youll find another ten. Dont get onesies.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:50 pm 
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Thanks for the feedback :)

Yeahh, it's much harder to not get one-itis when they're SO smoking! Haha. I think i'll be alright though.

So you don't suggest texting her tonight and closing it up? In the sense that then i'll know whether anything is going to happen once and for all?

Also I noticed she has 1600 Facebook friends too, if that's of of any relevance?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:54 pm 
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Can't edit due to 500minute limit, but I just wanted to add i'm 18 and she's 19. Because I know game can be different at this age...

Thanks again!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 2:11 pm 
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fb? texting? nothing is as good as a good old fashioned phone call, man up and call her build confort and rapport if she doesnt show interest in the phone game it'll would be game over at least for me


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 3:24 pm 
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Thanks for the reply Pie!

Phonecall.. interesting! Never thought of that.

Sure I can do a phonecall, just have normal chit chat, maybe call her up on the convo? Neg her about it? Then go into a day2 about inviting her to the club i'm promoting for?

Also, if she doesn't answer the first time, just leave 1 missed call? Or try once more? What would be the rule?


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:14 pm 
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ok im not an expert on phone games but there a few rules that are essential:

first call and if its the answering machine hang out call again and if its again the anwer machine be prepared to leave a message she might be busy or something tell her that you will call her at x hour or day so she'll know when you are going to call back

its easier when you set up a date right away something like: "im going to bowling with some friends you should come youll have a fun time" if she objects let her know that you can have as fun with/without her you could call her later and let her know all the fun she is missing

IMO this is the most important rule in phonegame LISTEN dont think "what do i say to her next" listen what she is saying and keep the flow going


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 4:26 pm 
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Interesting feedback Pie, thanks.

I'm pretty good at phonegame so that should be ok. And I quite like the idea of inviting her to the club on Monday as a day 2 because if she was to attend it would be for me etc and from the feel i've got I think I could kclose her then, and continue on.

Keep it coming guys! Appreciated.


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